What do you consider the greatest tragedy in your country's history?

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treborillusion
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The slave trade.
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Slavery

Second would probably be putting Japanese Americans in camps during WW2.



Or maybe that whole thing about wiping out almost an entire race of people just for being on land you wanted.
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Or maybe that whole thing about wiping out almost an entire race of people just for being on land you wanted.


Sure, but that was just a product of colonialism.

All the cool European countries were doing it, we just wanted to fit in.
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"Wiping out"? More like shoving onto tiny-ass pieces of undesirable land. Not that it makes it any more acceptable to state it correctly.
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#93
I think the Japanese internment camps issue is a bit overblown tbh. They weren't killed or nothing.
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If serious, you need to read up on your US history. If not serious, carry on.


Sorta srs. I'm talking about Jr., not Sr. if that clears it up
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I think the Japanese internment camps issue is a bit overblown tbh. They weren't killed or nothing.


It's more about the hypocrisy of it. We're fighting an enemy that's rounding up people and putting them into camps, and we're condemning them for it, while we're doing the exact same thing at home.

Of course, it's not like we don't do this kind of shit all the time. Still, it's worth bringing up.

Not to mention, many prisoners did die due to lack of medical care or were shot while trying to escape.
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+1

Ralph Nader wrote a interesting editorial on this recently. Slams them on the Iraq war and the sociecide of their people.
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Sorta srs. I'm talking about Jr., not Sr. if that clears it up

Since "W" was Jr., I figured. But honestly, off the top of my head, I can think of 5 tragedies involving the US that were much worse than Bush's years in office. Be a little better student of history, please.
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Since "W" was Jr., I figured. But honestly, off the top of my head, I can think of 5 tragedies involving the US that were much worse than Bush's years in office. Be a little better student of history, please.


ugh...

this works better actually:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsf8LnThk5Y
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#100
Depends what you mean by tragedy.

If it's from a foreign force, then probably 9/11.

If it's something by our own doing, then probably Vietnam.
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Slavery, along with the century of legal oppression that followed it.
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The empire, both great in size and great in lessons, I guess. The clout ever weakening though as time goes by,,, TBH, IDK, only other country I've been to was the United States who aren't common wealth because they fought for their independence and,won but, considered an allie who taught us something that my Queen announced on a plaque in that capital city, the first one. By my Queen I mean the one of my country, there are other queens, but... IDK, I'm a subject to her and like it or lump it, her property. But she takes good care of us. IDK. Am tired, big day yesterday, sort of big day today too.
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"Wiping out"? More like shoving onto tiny-ass pieces of undesirable land. Not that it makes it any more acceptable to state it correctly.



More like 'learn some fucking history'.
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#105
Capel Celin being flooded so the ****ing english can have some water for bloody liverpool.

Aberfan mining accident. Destroyed a school. Killed 116 kids.

The english practically ending our language.

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treborillusion
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#106
OMG or the opium trade!

*hides... and likes Hong Kong for it.
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"Wiping out"? More like shoving onto tiny-ass pieces of undesirable land. Not that it makes it any more acceptable to state it correctly.


what the ****?
Do you have any idea how many native americans actually were killed?

Neither do I but it was a ****ing big amount. And initially they were hardly shoved onto tiny ass pieces of undesirable land. They were killed.
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#108
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Since "W" was Jr., I figured. But honestly, off the top of my head, I can think of 5 tragedies involving the US that were much worse than Bush's years in office. Be a little better student of history, please.

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what the ****?
Do you have any idea how many native americans actually were killed?

Neither do I but it was a ****ing big amount. And initially they were hardly shoved onto tiny ass pieces of undesirable land. They were killed.


To be fair, the Indians also killed the White men. They took their fair share of scalps.
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mystical_1
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To be fair, the Indians also killed the White men. They took their fair share of scalps.


And nobody every mentions the fact that more indians killed indians than anyone else. Tribes were constantly wiping out one another for centuries. While I think its a stretch, you might even say that white man helped them iron out their differences.
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US and Native Americans. Even though disease was by far the worst killer, wiping out most of those remaining and then trying to eliminate their culture is a black stain on our history.
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US and Native Americans. Even though disease was by far the worst killer, wiping out most of those remaining and then trying to eliminate their culture is a black stain on our history.


I would agree. Things eventually and definately got ugly.

But I would add that new technology such as the frying pan, gun, riding a horse, and everything else that came along with wave after wave of white immigrants, doomed the future of their culture as well, in many different ways, whether intentional or not.
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#112
9/11 yeah shame they died but it can't be an excuse for every dumb ass decision in foreign policy and taking away rights. Although the mass shooting are a "good reason" to ban guns.
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I think we can all agree that the Indians had it coming. they could have ask for peace at Amy moment, bht refused to learn our language to make their intentions clear.
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I think we can all agree that the Indians had it coming. they could have ask for peace at Amy moment, bht refused to learn our language to make their intentions clear.

This, manifest destiny bitch we needed to rape the land to raise cattle for our mother ****ing double quarter pound with cheeze.
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#116
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I think we can all agree that the Indians had it coming. they could have ask for peace at Amy moment, bht refused to learn our language to make their intentions clear.

Well you're obviously trolling.


That, or prime candidate for capital punishment.


EDIT: Whoops, didn't even see your username. Definitely trolling, otherwise you'd never have lasted here this long. Comments like this when they're sincere lead to a lot of hatred and ridicule. Just ask crazysam.
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Biggest tragedy is that there are still native americans left :/ sorry but darwin proved it with survival of the fittest, we rightfully own this land and can run our own casinos.
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Well you're obviously trolling.


That, or prime candidate for capital punishment.


EDIT: Whoops, didn't even see your username. Definitely trolling, otherwise you'd never have lasted here this long. Comments like this when they're sincere lead to a lot of hatred and ridicule. Just ask crazysam.

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treborillusion
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Compared to Germany, we're pretty cool...

We bought slaves from Africa and sold them in America in exchange for cotton that we shipped to England to be turned into blankets that were shipped to India where we banned them from making their own so they'd have to buy it from us in exchange for opium that we unloaded on to the Chinese for great profits so we could afford to take ships to Africa and start the whole process again.

Either that or X-Factor.

(At least it's not like Germany, or Uganda).
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Also, anybody we didn't like, like people who challeneged bosses for worker's rights (the first trade unions) - were sentenced to death or Australia.
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