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#41
Quote by Tom 1.0
At this sort of money its usually more about preference than better/worse quality.

The best quality guitars I have played at this point have been ESP, Suhr and EBMM.


Mayones is comparable to Suhr quality wise.
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Never said they weren't. I only speak from my own experiences.

I've only played a Setius model and I wasn't too impressed after all the hype i'd heard.

But hey, I didn't think that the Blackmahines I played were worth the huge prices they currently demand
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#43
even if I would personally get a Mayones 1000 times before an ESP horizon, if you like how it feels, it might be the best for you. ESP are well built which is one of the only objective thing about guitars. So if you like it that's perfect for you
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#44
I think I'll go for the ESP at my next payment(in two weeks).
However it'll probably be the ESP E-II since the "old" ESP:s isn't available in the bestlooking finishes(BKAQ and DBSB) alt. costs 200£ more. (Direct cost translation frpm swedish crowns to dollars gives the EII a cost of 2220$ and the ESP(without EII) 2500$)

Maybe I'll find one within the two weeks that is Original ESP w/o EII at the same price though, who knows
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#45
Only thing I know from owning guitars from both Mayones and ESP, and that is that Mayones is not on the same level as ESP, but clearly above it.
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#46
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Only thing I know from owning guitars from both Mayones and ESP, and that is that Mayones is not on the same level as ESP, but clearly above it.

And how do you motivate that?
What ESP did you try and what Mayonese?
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#47
I think Mayones are out of the picture since I want Floyd Rose and the cheapest one are the Setius Pro at 3000$.
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#48
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I think Mayones are out of the picture since I want Floyd Rose and the cheapest one are the Setius Pro at 3000$.


Find a used regius. I have seen them go for around 2000-2500 euro in Europe and around 2400-2800 in the US.
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Quote by Alex_lhp
And how do you motivate that?
What ESP did you try and what Mayonese?

I have a legend, I played many regius'es (regii?) and many setius'es (ii?), also some masterbuilds at a good friend's store who imports mayones and ESP guitars, and I must say that the Mayones guitars are definatly better made. It's all in the details. How the binding flows from a tilted headstock in the neckbinding, cavity shielding, tighter routing gaps, less woodfilling around inlays etc.
Woods are also always exquisit. ESP uses some nice pieces too, agreed, and you'll never hear me say they make bad guitars (hell, I own 3 of them: Horizon Eclipse and The Junior), but if I would have the choice right now, I personally would pick a mayones without a doubt. Tom may call them Hipster guitars, whatever. I'd like to see him play some and tell me again that it's a hype. They truly make amazing guitars.
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#50
Quote by Stealthtastic
Find a used regius. I have seen them go for around 2000-2500 euro in Europe and around 2400-2800 in the US.

WHAT?
Setius used: 900-1100€
Regius used: 1300-1400€

New: +700-900€
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#51
Quote by LP_CL
WHAT?
Setius used: 900-1100€
Regius used: 1300-1400€

New: +700-900€


Where? I just saw a used Regius go for around 2k eur on a forum i run.
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#52
Quote by LP_CL
I have a legend, I played many regius'es (regii?) and many setius'es (ii?), also some masterbuilds at a good friend's store who imports mayones and ESP guitars, and I must say that the Mayones guitars are definatly better made. It's all in the details. How the binding flows from a tilted headstock in the neckbinding, cavity shielding, tighter routing gaps, less woodfilling around inlays etc.
Woods are also always exquisit. ESP uses some nice pieces too, agreed, and you'll never hear me say they make bad guitars (hell, I own 3 of them: Horizon Eclipse and The Junior), but if I would have the choice right now, I personally would pick a mayones without a doubt. Tom may call them Hipster guitars, whatever. I'd like to see him play some and tell me again that it's a hype. They truly make amazing guitars.

I'm sure they do, however, since I want Floyd Rose on the guitar I would have to raise my budget with more than half a grand, and no I can't find any used ones available inside the EU(~45% fees when importing from outside since I'm in Sweden) plus I'll loose all local maintenance if I buy a Mayones not that it is a large affecting factor but still. (Mayones isn't available in Sweden)

I've almost completely decided to go with the Horizon, i'm just going to contact mayones and see what the price would set on if I order directly from Poland(since the Horizon is a bit cheaper here I figure maybe the Mayones are as well).

Will get back to you with a answer when they answer on my mail!
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#54
Quote by Stealthtastic
Where? I just saw a used Regius go for around 2k eur on a forum i run.

They pass frequently on a belgian forum for that price, and the new prices are those that this friend who imports them asks.
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#56
Thats a setius though. Also keep in mind older mayones are not worth as much. I would never touch anything pre-2011.
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#57
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Horizons have a weird U shape neck. Get the regiussss

Haha they don't have a "weird" U shape neck. They have a so called Thin U neck which essentially are the same as the U-neck just a bit thinner and since I like the U neck I bet I'll like the Thin U as well.
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#58
And yes I've heard that the old Mayones vs the new ones are like night and day.
And pretty much everything that is out for a low amount of money and doesn't have the manufactured year told, are older less good ones.

As I said I'll e-mail Mayones about their Regius PRO and their Setius PRO to see the price in Poland. And if it goes over 2000 euros for the Regius and over 1700 for the Setius it's a no.
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Quote by Alex_lhp
And yes I've heard that the old Mayones vs the new ones are like night and day.
And pretty much everything that is out for a low amount of money and doesn't have the manufactured year told, are older less good ones.

As I said I'll e-mail Mayones about their Regius PRO and their Setius PRO to see the price in Poland. And if it goes over 2000 euros for the Regius and over 1700 for the Setius it's a no.


Yeah its crazy how different they can be quality wise. They used to be a running joke for a long time then only recently they stepped up their quality.

Also about the U-shape... I agree it is personal preference for sure, I usually get along well with thicker necks (LPs, Suhr medium C, etc.) but the U shape really throws me off haha
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Quote by Stealthtastic
Yeah its crazy how different they can be quality wise. They used to be a running joke for a long time then only recently they stepped up their quality.

Also about the U-shape... I agree it is personal preference for sure, I usually get along well with thicker necks (LPs, Suhr medium C, etc.) but the U shape really throws me off haha

I hate the thicker 50's(I think?) LP neck, because of its thickness, however I really like the ESP U-neck so I wouldn't think that the Thin-U should be anything less than great for me

Anyone knows if it's easy to change from active to passive pick ups? (I think I'll want passive Dimarzios or SD:s in the guitar later but first i'm thinking about giving EMG:s a second chance and later buy SD Blackouts to it.) I'm thinking that the actives batteryholders and similar needs carving in the guitar body and therefore it should be best to buy the guitar with them ready at start rather then go from passives to actives if I want to try that later.
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#62
Quote by FatalGear41
They are indeed, and their basses are even better. But if the prices in Sweden are anything like their prices in the U.S.A., then the TS is probably going to have to double his budget:

http://www.mayonesusa.com/Mayones-RETAIL-Price-List-2013.pdf

Maybe if Mayones had more than one dealer in the United States?



The MayonesUSA price list gives the full retail price. However, that is not the price you will actually pay. It will be significantly less. To get the true price, you will have to get a quote. The price of a stock Setius PRO (only zero cost options selected) in the US is competitive with the price of the ESP.

With options, the price on any Mayones model can skyrocket. On my current order, my options added another 50-60% to the price. But you get something unique. The same can be said of getting an ESP from their custom shop.

In Europe, you can gauged street price by looking at the prices at musicstore.de .
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#63
Options always get you. I put in an order for a custom from a certain luthier after seeing one of his pieces for $1100. I made a few changes, and mine is coming in just over $2000...and that's with him giving me a 20% discount.
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#64
The Regius PRO is still waaay to expensive but sure, I'll ask at their support(Mayones) about the Setius if I buy it in Poland(have relatives driving through there at occasions).
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#65
Got a reply from Mayones, a Setius PRO would cost about 1870 dollars if I buy it directly in Poland.

I'm going to check with them about the Regius PRO aswell.

What was the standard price for both of them in the US again?
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Saw the price in Germany now, 1800 euro. Then I'll save a bit if I buy there. I'm going to see how I do, I'll have to wait 2-3 months for the guitar if I buy a Mayones. If I buy a ESP I'll have to wait 2-3 days :P
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#67
Quote by Alex_lhp
Got a reply from Mayones, a Setius PRO would cost about 1870 dollars if I buy it directly in Poland.

I'm going to check with them about the Regius PRO aswell.

What was the standard price for both of them in the US again?


Even with a discount of about 30% (and that's generous, since Mayones has only one distributor in the United States and they are a wholesaler), I doubt that you could touch one for less than US$2,800.00 And that is before you start adding those expensive, eye-candy options. I suspect that over here, the prices are a lot closer to the MSRP because of the limited availability in the U.S.A.
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OK now. import Setius PRO or buy ESP Horizon FR-II w. 3 years maintenance localy! Which one?

(The Regius was to expensive at 1.9k euro)
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#69
Quote by FatalGear41
Even with a discount of about 30% (and that's generous, since Mayones has only one distributor in the United States and they are a wholesaler), I doubt that you could touch one for less than US$2,800.00 And that is before you start adding those expensive, eye-candy options. I suspect that over here, the prices are a lot closer to the MSRP because of the limited availability in the U.S.A.



The actual discount in the USA runs between 30-35% (closer to 30% since the price increase last summer). This is based on my last two invoices. The price in the USA is pretty close to the street price in the EU (based on musicstore.de listed price). The difference is not as much as people think because you have a 19% VAT tax in the EU. That almost levels the playing field.
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Quote by Alex_lhp
OK now. import Setius PRO or buy ESP Horizon FR-II w. 3 years maintenance localy! Which one?

(The Regius was to expensive at 1.9k euro)



There's no right answer we can give you. The two guitars have different necks so you may prefer one over the other.


The Mayones will take time to build but you can pick some options (some are zero cost). The ESP has the maintenance and can be had quicker.
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Quote by AltecGreen
There's no right answer we can give you. The two guitars have different necks so you may prefer one over the other.


The Mayones will take time to build but you can pick some options (some are zero cost). The ESP has the maintenance and can be had quicker.

Yep. I think I'll go for the ESP since I want the guitar as soon as possible and also since I can't try the Mayones.
I also love the ESP-Eclipse Neck which basicly is a slightly thicker verson of the Horizon which probably will lead to an happy Alex anyways
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