dragonballdbz
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Hi

My electric guitar's strings are very loose. WHen I tighten them, they go out of tune and the only way to tune them is to let them loose. So I am wondering how to tighten strings and still keep them in tune?

For example, G string is pretty loose. If I tighten it, it tunes to B/E, etc and never return to G (unless I loosen it back) . How exactly to tighten the strings then?
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zl1288
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Are you sure you are tuning the guitar to the correct pitch?
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I use Pacifica 112v and I use electronic tuner. So I just turn the tuning screws until strings reaches the target tuning
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Just make sure you're not tuning an octave down by mistake. If you're tuning correctly and want more tension just buy thicker strings.
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assuming i'm understanding what you're asking, it might be dodgy restringing technique.
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Check it against another guitar or a piano if you can. Also, what does "very loose" mean?
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Very loose means, if third string is tuned to G, which I want it to be (if i want EBGDA), it is very loose, if i pick the string lightly, it keeps of vibrating heavily.

It maybe something related to restringing. Any videos on that?
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sounds liek somthign that happened to me... the ball end of some brands are thicker then others, i know on one of my guitars, i need to push the ball end in with a small screw driver to get it seated properly.....assuming your bridge is either string though or has some kind of trem....when you feed the string through the back of the guitar make sure the ball end is fully seated in the hole. pass the string though the back and pull on it to make sure it goes all the way in.
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What do you mean by tuning SCREWS? It might be a stupid question, but how do you tune your guitar?
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Seconding either an octave too low or bad stringing techniques.
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Quote by terribleguitar
What do you mean by tuning SCREWS? It might be a stupid question, but how do you tune your guitar?


Tuning keys i think is what i meant. To tune my Pacifica 112, i just turn the keys slightly (shiny screw type tings at the end of guitar) either clockwise or anti.

Also with loose i mean this: watch this guy's strings at 2:54, 2:55.. my strings are not that loose but pretty close to it. you get the idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3pf1YgNMb0
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Quote by Roc8995
You're down an octave. Must be if your strings are that loose. No other option.


So how do i go an octave up to the correct position? Also the only way to tighten the strings is to turn the tuning keys right? Or is there any other way to tighten the string and also not loose the tuning?
Should I go to the guitar shop to correct it?
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Quote by dragonballdbz
So how do i go an octave up to the correct position? Also the only way to tighten the strings is to turn the tuning keys right? Or is there any other way to tighten the string and also not loose the tuning?
Should I go to the guitar shop to correct it?



'Tightening' the string will always change the tuning. That's how it works..

You turn the tuners on the headstock, it winds the string tighter and in turn that changes the tuning.

If you are tuned to an octave below then you need to go from say E right up through all the notes until you return to E again, but an octave higher. Do that for all the strings.
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The pitch of the string directly correlates to how tight the string is, but there is more than one 'G' you have probably tuned to a low "G" an octave below the target note. Keep tightening the string it it will eventually go around to 'G' again at much higher tension. (This is all assuming its very loose and not just a little loose compared to other strings)
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Quote by Roc8995
You're down an octave. Must be if your strings are that loose. No other option.


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Quote by dragonballdbz
So how do i go an octave up to the correct position? Also the only way to tighten the strings is to turn the tuning keys right? Or is there any other way to tighten the string and also not loose the tuning?
Should I go to the guitar shop to correct it?


no don't go to the guitar shop

just turn (tighten) the guitar's tuning keys until you hit G on the tuner (or whatever note you need) again.
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Yeah, you are almost certainly an octave down. So how to go an octave up? It's the same note but just 12 half steps (frets) higher. For example if you play the 12th fret of your E string, you get an E an octave higher than the open string. It might be hard to hear which octave you are in if you are new to guitar. Make sure your strings are tuned to the same pitch as in this video. You'll hear if it's an octave lower or higher. Oh yeah, and your strings should feel right when they are tuned to the right pitch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWjq_4suLM
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As it turns out, i was NOT an octave lower. The strings become super tight & unplayable when they return to their tuning after a complete cirrcle. So that means something is wrong with my fretboard/truss rod?
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I think that means you need to take it to a shop. Strings are tuned by tension only, so if the tension is that low they're not in tune. You can't have a string that's in tune but also wildly loose on a standard scale guitar. Maybe if you used the wrong gauge string by mistake. But there's no reasonable mechanism where you have a string that's just flopping around on the fretboard but also at the right note. We're missing some information here.

Come back and tell us what it is once the shop figures it out.
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My guess is, you bought strings that are too thick and were tuned an octave low. Once you tuned to the correct octave they felt way too tight. I'm not sure it's even possible to have strings so tight it's unplayable. Pretty sure they will just break well before that.
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Quote by J_W
My guess is, you bought strings that are too thick and were tuned an octave low. Once you tuned to the correct octave they felt way too tight. I'm not sure it's even possible to have strings so tight it's unplayable. Pretty sure they will just break well before that.

Yeah, what kind of strings did you buy and what gauge? If you are going to tune to standard, 9-42 or 10-46 are the most commonly used gauges. I use a 9-42 set.

Take your guitar to the store you bought it from and ask them to do something about it. If you bought the guitar recently, I think they should do it for free, of course depending on the problem.
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Quote by Roc8995
I think that means you need to take it to a shop. Strings are tuned by tension only, so if the tension is that low they're not in tune. You can't have a string that's in tune but also wildly loose on a standard scale guitar. Maybe if you used the wrong gauge string by mistake. But there's no reasonable mechanism where you have a string that's just flopping around on the fretboard but also at the right note. We're missing some information here.

Come back and tell us what it is once the shop figures it out.


+1

tell us what gauge too, as maggaramarine says.
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