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So I used to love djent, or the stuff that calls itself djent. Periphery, Tesseract, Meshuggah etc the works, couldn't get enough of it. Till it reached the point where every second band out there seems to play djent, metalcore, or some sort of bastard child of djent and metalcore. It reached the point where I got fed up of hearing low tuned guitars go BHONG BHONG JUNN JUNN BOING and I'd hit the skip button the second I heard anything that was even remotely djenty even if it was a song I used to love. Same with any new songs I hear- I hear a BOING, I go "jesus not again" and skip.

What about you guys?
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Meshuggah can do it, and no-one else.
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Quote by jjfeu662
Meshuggah can do it, and no-one else.


THIS. Although I don't consider Meshuaggah as djent, and neither do they according to some sources.. the plague of bands trying to sound like them, THAT's what I think djent is.

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Djent is sorta like NuMetal.
It's really not great, nor is it bad. It has it's gems and it's turds, and if you immerse yourself in it for too long you get very sick of it.

I never listen to Djent, it bores me.
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I liked it when it was a thing before it was a thing. When every band started calling themselves 'Plurals', it got terrible very quickly.

Still some gems around there, like Cilice, Textures, Disperse and Ovids Withering but for the most part is largely ignorable.
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I'm tired of every band trying to do it. There are some good bands though, Periphery and Meshuggah, of course. But just people screaming over "boing boing" is getting very old.

Also, I dislike how the entire genre of djent tries to swear off amps and only use amp simulation. You can't beat a mic'd cab man. You just can't.

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I liked it when it was a thing before it was a thing. When every band started calling themselves 'Plurals', it got terrible very quickly.


Oh my god this.
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Quote by SilverSpurs616
THIS. Although I don't consider Meshuaggah as djent, and neither do they according to some sources.. the plague of bands trying to sound like them, THAT's what I think djent is.


I don't like the term 'djent' either; that's like calling power metal 'deedalee', dubstep 'whomp' or Bieber music 'squeak'. I prefer to call them Brutal Chug Prog.

And all those bands trying to copy a unique sound is awful.
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If you're on a budget, digital>mic'd cab.


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What's spam about it?
I've tried to mic my amp when I record with my band, and guitar rig 5 whups it for sound quality. I imagine the same would ring true for Line6 and AxeFX.
If I were better and more experienced and had better gear, the cab would be better.
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Quote by jaybrink10101
If you're on a budget, digital>mic'd cab.


I'm not saying that about the guys who are just starting out, I'm saying that for the bands that are touring. Playing live shows without an amp behind you just seems...weird.
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Quote by jaybrink10101
What's spam about it?
I've tried to mic my amp when I record with my band, and guitar rig 5 whups it for sound quality. I imagine the same would ring true for Line6 and AxeFX.
If I were better and more experienced and had better gear, the cab would be better.


Sorry, I didn't see the post before it. It's just normally someone who joined this month who posts something with little to do with the topic is normally spam. But I didn't see the topic brought up. Sorry about that.

As for the digital vs amp thing, I prefer the mic amp to digital, it sounds more real IMO.
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Quote by Rojam
I'm not saying that about the guys who are just starting out, I'm saying that for the bands that are touring. Playing live shows without an amp behind you just seems...weird.



Each to his own I guess. Running a mic'd amp would be a better solution if you don't need to switch around sounds a lot, especially if you have people to lug your gear.

I personally prefer a single really good preamp+rack multi effects(TriAxis+G Force would be lovely to use)/amp modeller(yes I'm an Axe Fx Fanboy ) with a nice floorboard- save all your patches and recall the lot with a single switch


That said...


I utterly despise djent tone, save Periphery and Meshuggah, and to an extent Tesseract and Textures. Peripherys and Textures records sound....normal. More or less normal, sorta organic tone. And Meshuggah....well, they won't be Meshuggah without that horribly nasty tone, would they?

But the average djent tone is just plain ugh. Every damn band boosts 1400 and 2200 hz like their lives depend on it, everyone of them with that chewy wonky upper mid, some of them to such insanely nasal levels their guitars go GHWOOOO like a fat dude blowing his nose in a lilting baritone.

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Meshuggah's not djent. Djent bands just took Meshuggah's basic ideas, added some lame ambient parts, and called it a new genre. What burns me is when djent fans call it "progressive metal", since there's really not a whole lot progressive about it. I'm glad that it's a dying trend. Most of the bigger "djent" bands are moving into different genres (or were actually in a different genre and got lumped in with Djent*), and the smaller bands are realizing that it's fun for a while but not really entertaining.

*Example: The HAARP Machine got called Djent a lot by media and ignorant teens, despite being Deathcore. It's like every band that used 7/8 string guitars or tuned down low was suddenly part of Djent.

The only djent band I liked is Periphery, and I only like "Periphery II". Anyone who has listened to that album knows the band is clearly moving towards a more progressive sound and songwriting style. (And they'd better continue in less "pure Djent" direction, unless they want to fade away.)

Quote by Rojam
I'm not saying that about the guys who are just starting out, I'm saying that for the bands that are touring. Playing live shows without an amp behind you just seems...weird.

Lots of bands actually use racks live and then have several large cabs scattered around the stage.
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Like every other genre, only a small percentage of bands worth listening to. I like death metal, but it's honestly unfathomable how many thousands of utter shit death metal bands there are, to where I find myself skipping nearly every one.

So you like Meshuggah, Tesseract, Periphery? Good, stick with those bands. I consider myself an avid fan of the new djent 'genre' and even still I pretty much only like these 3 bands and a handful of others. You don't have to like every band-- in fact, you shouldn't.

And Meshuggah is every much as djent as Black Sabbath is metal.
er... let me put it this way. Meshuggah is to djent what Sabbath is to metal. Do you think Sabbath is metal? If you do, then Meshuggah is djent. and vice versa.
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#21
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
Meshuggah's not djent. Djent bands just took Meshuggah's basic ideas, added some lame ambient parts, and called it a new genre. What burns me is when djent fans call it "progressive metal", since there's really not a whole lot progressive about it. I'm glad that it's a dying trend. Most of the bigger "djent" bands are moving into different genres (or were actually in a different genre and got lumped in with Djent*), and the smaller bands are realizing that it's fun for a while but not really entertaining.

*Example: The HAARP Machine got called Djent a lot by media and ignorant teens, despite being Deathcore. It's like every band that used 7/8 string guitars or tuned down low was suddenly part of Djent.

The only djent band I liked is Periphery, and I only like "Periphery II". Anyone who has listened to that album knows the band is clearly moving towards a more progressive sound and songwriting style. (And they'd better continue in less "pure Djent" direction, unless they want to fade away.)


Lots of bands actually use racks live and then have several large cabs scattered around the stage.


It's a guitar sound. Meshuggah have it, all the other bands you mentioned have it, and it's distinctive. It's a thing; the word 'genre' is the problem.
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It's a guitar sound. Meshuggah have it, all the other bands you mentioned have it, and it's distinctive. It's a thing; the word 'genre' is the problem.

I'll agree with that. It is a distinctive sound. That said, labeling it as a new genre is bullshit really.

Although, honestly, I think you and I disagree on the usefullness of genres or at least subgenres. You seem to just want to label everything something simple, and I don't. My mind just doesn't work that way.
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I think we agree on their usefulness, but not on their relevance to most discussions. People know what genres things are, that information isn't particularly interesting in most cases. But I'm only pulling your leg half the time!
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I think we agree on their usefulness, but not on their relevance to most discussions. People know what genres things are, that information isn't particularly interesting in most cases. But I'm only pulling your leg half the time!

Well, fair enough.

Usually, it does get funny when you pull my leg too.