xecxylove
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#1
Hi everibody, I'm a late bloomer when it touches to guitar, I only learned i had this particular affinity for guitar about a year and a half ago(i´m 21) , as such i have been learning a bit of everithing rock, blues, funk and more specificly flamenco, but only a week ago i found out ESTAS TONNE and his music , and i must say I absolutly love it and it's in my deepest desires to learn this style of playing. I came here so I could ask you guys what type of music this is, and how can I find a proper teacher.

THanks in advance, best regards Andre

Link for estas tonne:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gphiFVVtUI
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Last edited by xecxylove at Sep 13, 2013,
roadie114
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#2
I agree with you 100%. I too would love to learn how to play like that. I've been looking for any information on how to play that song, chords, etc.
Banjocal
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#3
He's playing something heavily centered around flamenco and spanish folk with a lot of different influences here and there.

look in classifieds, local music shop notice boards etc. find a classical teacher.
shaiag
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#4
Hi there,
Indeed this is quite an amazing playing!
you might find this article helpful:
http://guitarinternational.com/2013/09/14/combining-legato-picking-techniques-spanish-guitar-runs/

it's an article i published a week ago at the guitar international magazine, which includes examples of flamenco and spanish guitar scalar runs and passages. it's a bit similiar to the playing style in the video, though more guitar dou-oriented as it talks about lead playing only but using a combination of picking techniques and legato.

good luck!

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cupidon192
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#6
This is the video I love and watch countless times. Sometime I play it again and again many times to get motivation learning. maybe he is a buddhist, I see an insence on the headstock
jcarlos007
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#7
Oh yea, I love this guy. I saw this video before i started playing and never thought to go back and see if I could play this. He's not playing anything really difficult though. I like how throws lead lines that sounds like they are from metal songs into his style, sounds awesome. The main thing to watch for is his right hand technique, he's playing classical style, thumb for bass 3 middle fingers for melody and then strums simple chords. If you want to improve on that get a classical teacher and tell him to give you the hardest songs he knows hahaha.

I can only play classical style for a little while before my hand start to hurt and tendons in my forearm tighten up. But if I play that way in public people notice it and gravitate towards it. Its wierd.
Anyways check out this video , you can see the lead guitarist's right hand and the speed that it gives him. Again his fretting hand is playing pretty simple stuff, speed comes from the alternating picking fingers, 3 picks are better than 1. At least for this style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYszw79zcfA

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On a side note, the video is hilarious, the guy filming resuses some of the clips cause he was filming other things at the same time. So when he got back to editing he had to cover some things up by using the same clips twice. it doesn't sync up sometimes. Just an observation since I do editing as well.
Mornox
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#8
ok since this is going into describing his technique, this is what i posted somewhere else:

Estas Tonne TECHNIQUE: Estas uses a lot of reverb and a little chorus or delay in some tracks, as well as an effect that greatly prolongs a low bass note sounding like a Didgeridoo. Most of his pieces are based on the e minor natural scale (note his standard lefthand position with index finger on high e 7th fret and improvising from there). for the right hand he is mainly using alternating finger picking styles (never pick twice in a row with the same finger, even if the thumb has to move over several strings for achieving that, like picking low bass and g string with thumb and b/high e string with the other fingers as shown below in the 2nd pattern) and he has finger nails. he is committed to "free stroking" meaning fingers do not rest on strings in between picking.

Main patterns repeating in the Song of the Golden Dragon (6/8, usually em or am chords and pinky on 2nd or 3rd fret of high e):

(pimac is thumb to pinky from "p" to "c", added x for pull off)

opening pattern for e minor (open string chord, a and d strings are not played):
--a-x-----m--m--- pull off is optional
--------i-----i------
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--p-----------------


this one especially outlines how he creates that fluidity as moving the thumb up gives him the possibility to play the high e string with continuos alternating fingers (as it is double-picked when the pattern repeats) and thus maximizing speed (both for em and am):
--a-x----------m-- pull off is optional
--------i-----i------
----------p---------
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--p-----------------


fast-paced tremolo stuff:
--m-x----m-x------
--------i-------i----- in some parts the index picks high e as well for more of a tremolo feeling
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--p-------p---------

for most melodies he just picks any of the notes of the natural e minor scale on high e string. frets to consider: 0, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12
with emphasis on 0/2/3 for main patterns and 5/10 for interludes and transitions, 8 is rarely used.

most of the parts he plays are quite achievable for any finger style guitar player who can use thumb, index, middle and ring finger of his right hand. the switch of techniques is just practice, but not overly complicated. only the part where melody and bass lines overlap, forming two separate melodies, is quite hard - but still i managed it within ~a week without classical training or teacher. just start and see how far one can dig into this, surprise yourself.
Last edited by Mornox at Sep 18, 2014,
Dreadnought
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#10
^ Nice work on that
But we little know until tried how much of the uncontrollable there is in us, urging across glaciers and torrents, and up dangerous heights, let the judgment forbid as it may.
Bikewer
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#11
As Mornox points out, this is essentially "Contemporary flamenco-influenced" playing. Most of the guy's technique is derived from classical/flamenco and aside from the guy's fluid technique...The pieces are not all that difficult musically.
I wonder about those nails of his...He must live in constant fear of breakage and do everything with his left hand...
Although it works for him this sort of nail length is not necessary and you will not find this on the vast majority of classical players.
Dreadnought
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#12
It's almost gimmicky, as well...
But we little know until tried how much of the uncontrollable there is in us, urging across glaciers and torrents, and up dangerous heights, let the judgment forbid as it may.
fingrpikingood
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#13
I'm not really a big fan of that sort of music, but that guy certainly killed it. What he does there in that video is really not easy.

EDIT: At first I was really impressed with his floating point technique thinking how tough that must be, but upon closer inspection, I basically do that also lol. The only time I really touch the strings with my hands, is to mute other strings that are ringing. Which, you could argue is part of what's difficult about it, but I think that long nails and a classical guitar go a long way to making that a lot easier. Idk what he does about sympathetic resonance though.

Not to take away from my earlier statement though, still very skillful playing.
Last edited by fingrpikingood at Nov 27, 2015,
Mornox
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#14
Quote by Bikewer

I wonder about those nails of his...He must live in constant fear of breakage and do everything with his left hand...


He is using acrylic nails and himself said that he does not recommend it to other players. He's still sticking to it because he's used to it. I am impressed of the range of dynamics this guy gets of hitting the string with pure nail, no flesh.

And as other stated, technically his pieces are not too difficult. He has a good sound (TC Electronic Hall of Fame modulated reverb helps a lot) and catches people by his feel for the music and improvising/adapting to that. In my perspective Estas Tonne developed a good repertoire of improvisation-friendly rather easy right hand patterns and his success comes from his adaption to the audience and bringing a lot of expression to the guitar and his physical performance (the latter is often avoided by classical players due to the old dogma of a musician should only speak through his instrument. However, once people are watching their overall impression IS influenced by the appearance and facial expressions of the player so Estas gains a bonus there compared to many other skilled players who focus 100% on their instrument)