Valience
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Hi,

So I recently got a Vox Night Train Head (50W) on discount, but nowhere around me seems to stock the matching cab. (They have the 15W matching cabs, but not the 50W).

So now I need to buy a new cab to match it, any advice would be appreciated.

My budget would probably be $<400 AUD

I don't mind buying used, in fact there is a Marshall 1X12 100W Cab for 250$

Other cabs I've been considering are ones by Orange and Black-star;

(Not sure if relevant, but I mainly play Hendrix, blues, the most 'metal' thing I play is Van Halen)
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Can you order from thoman (i can never remember what its called)?

They have a supposedly have 2x12 ply cabs with V30's. Its a steal. Wish someone would do that in the US
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Can you order from thoman (i can never remember what its called)?


I don't think Thomann delivers to Australia though
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I don't think Thomann delivers to Australia though


Correct!

Thanks for the help so far
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I don't think Thomann delivers to Australia though


They do, flat rate €50 shipping. I think the cab is a Harley Benton which is Thomann's house brand, but for the price, with V30s, they're a steal.
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Wow, all day on ebay and I don't even notice that; Definitely be watching that now, thanks Cath

I'm in Melbourne too, so that's a bonus.
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what are the prices Of orange cabinets in Australia?
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A Orange PPC112 1X12 is about $360;

Quick question, could the Vox 50W head work through a 100watt 8ohm speaker?

Just asking because there are three outputs; x2 8ohm outputs and x1 16ohm
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if you are referring to a guitar speaker yes you should be fine. As long as the match on the head for the speaker and the speaker has more wattage. I would truly look for a 2x12" if you can find one.
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Holy shit. $1400 for a 4x12. Goddamn. Scratch that.

I don't mean to be an ass, but why is all of your gear so jacked up in price. I am sure shipping may play a role, but tim built me two pedals in a box the price was $15 or so. I cant ship anything across the states for that hardly.
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Holy shit. $1400 for a 4x12. Goddamn. Scratch that.

I don't mean to be an ass, but why is all of your gear so jacked up in price. I am sure shipping may play a role, but tim built me two pedals in a box the price was $15 or so. I cant ship anything across the states for that hardly.
Small markets are easy to manipulate. Wages are a lot higher here too. Free market theory seems not to work in small markets. The prices rise to the highest the market can bear rather than prices falling to lowest suppliers can afford. Looks like market manipulation to me. The big eat the small and when they're all that's left they charge what they wish. We have a lot of money so that turns out to be quite a lot.

Only half an hour to go on that cab. I hope you're watching.
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Small markets are easy to manipulate. Wages are a lot higher here too. Free market theory seems not to work in small markets. The prices rise to the highest the market can bear rather than prices falling to lowest suppliers can afford. Looks like market manipulation to me. The big eat the small and when they're all that's left they charge what they wish. We have a lot of money so that turns out to be quite a lot.

Only half an hour to go on that cab. I hope you're watching.


I never thought of Australia as a small market. i searched and you have around 23 million. The us is 320million (iirc). That will definitely be a difference in demand. ****.
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Yeah, we have higher labor costs/shop lease/living expenses than anywhere else; Yes that means our wages are higher (i.e Casual jobs at the store checkout can be between 17-25$ per hour), but whether that is proportional to the prices we pay, I'm not entirely convinced. Allans use to be WAY worse 6months ago though.

Anyway, I'm looking at this http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/sis.html?_nkw=Blackstar%20HTV%20212%202x12%20Cabinet%20with%202x75%20Watt%20Greenback%20Clones&_itemId=301007131514#ht_380wt_1075
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Look for a line 6 spider tube cab 4x12 v30's. Make sure itis a v30 one though.
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Another thought would be to pay a woodworker to do it. Find your wanted cab dimensions and have him build it i have built a few.
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I'm really surprised that Australia does not have a company similar to Avatar speakers or Roadkill cabs. It seems like a budget cab company would do really well in your market
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Found a Ceriatone 2x12 Cab for 450$, just above my price range; Loaded with 2x Celestion Vintage Series G12H - 30W Speakers - Worth going above my price range?
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Found a Ceriatone 2x12 Cab for 450$, just above my price range; Loaded with 2x Celestion Vintage Series G12H - 30W Speakers - Worth going above my price range?


If you are running 60 or watts or less it would be a solid cab.
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I'm really surprised that Australia does not have a company similar to Avatar speakers or Roadkill cabs. It seems like a budget cab company would do really well in your market

Closest I'm aware of...

http://www.ashtonmusic.com/
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^ not even close, Avatar and Roadkill make custom speaker cabs for really cheap new
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Picked up second hand Vintage Crate something - It's white and square shaped; Probably weighs around 15-20kg; closed back and in pretty good condition. Loaded with 2x12 Eminence V30 copies; 60W 16 ohms. $220 AUD. Leaving me with enough to swap speakers out if I don't like them. Thanks for all your help guys!
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I agree with the market manipulation.

How else can anything be expensive there, with frigging China around the corner

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Quote by clegtr
I don't think Thomann delivers to Australia though

they do.

Their 2x12 cab, delivered, is under $400. I know because I have one.
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