ikey_
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hi guys,

so, i just bought a custom carvin which is incredible. there are 2 minor gripes which i have, mostly because i have picky tastes, but i think 1 item that can improve is the neck pup. and most of that is probably my playing and the rig that i run through.

however, almost every neck pup i have ever used i find great and full for cleans but muddy with OD. i also find most neck pups seriously lack harmonics compared to the bridge.

i was thinking of some options for a neck pup to start. heres where i am looking for:

- i play almost anything i think sounds good, from classic rock, pop, to rock, to jazz, to punk, to metalish stuff

- my carvin splits coils, and i REALLY like my both pups on tone, so a good split coil tone is essential.

- preferably a lot of clarity and harmonics, equally well for OD and cleans

- current neck pup is 7.6K Ohms, current bridge is 13.6 k Ohms. both are relatively the same "volume" but the bridge is definitely brighter, hotter, and meaner! i would like a good balance.

price:

i think i can rock the bridge pup for a while, i think i will shop for a single pup price. i would like to keep it under 150 for a single pup. so really, thats most things.

Desires/ Turnoffs:

i designed my guitar with 2 black bobbins. so, no covers, no zebras. not saying looks are everything, but i built my guitar custom, and a lot went into everything both looks and feel.

i really dislike seymour duncan for putting SEYMOUR DUNCAN right on the pickup. thats a turnoff for me. not a deal breaker, but honestly, i would most likely take a knife and scratch off the seymour duncan i hate that so much. so yeah, kinda don't want it.

Thanks,

Ikey_
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Arby911
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#3
Quote by ibanez1997
If you're not completely averse to Duncans, you could look at a '59 or Jazz. Dimarzio Air Norton is a good option too.


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steven_ferns84
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#4
Many to choose from the dimarzio line-up. Air Norton, Air Classic, PAF Pro are some to look into.

From the SD side there's the PATB-1(looks unique in a way), Full Shred neck(normal look). Ordering from them directly can get you a pickup without the logo. The logo is supposed to be easy to get off, but I haven't bothered taking them off of mine.
ikey_
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#5
right. i am sure if i want the tone, its not that big of a deterrent.

I've been looking a lot at the dimarzio line. some good stuff, but hard to choose. another reason i posed on here was for custom or boutique suggestions. i feel like up to $150 a pup opens doors into the boutique world. a lot of boutique sets are 150 for singles or 300 a set. anything beyond that is crazy, probably like linty fralin or PRS aftermarket or something.
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#6
Why not just call Fralin and ask?
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#7
If you decide on a Seymour Duncan, just give them a call. They'll send you any pup with no logo, no big deal whatsoever. I think small custom stuff like this adds about $10 to the shelf price.

But some of their pickups are offered without logos regardless. I know the '59 is, Jazz probably is as well.
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Dimarzio paf pros are very good sounding
very full and rich with overdrive.
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What about a SD Pearly Gates? They come in black but they do have Seymour Duncan written on them. What's your beef with that anyway?
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ikey_
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heavily leaning on the air classic. seems a little higher output than the stock carvin but still considered vintage, and people says its a great open, airy, not muddy neck pup.

any experience with thiese?
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Air Classics are pretty good. As I recall they've got a slight mid scoop to them which might make harmonics more difficult. I've had some pretty good luck with both the Fred and the Liquifier in the neck position.

Have you tried lowering the neck pickup, it was the first thing I did when I got my Carvin and it made a huge difference. Also, try dialing your amp using the neck pickup and then using the tone knob to tame the bridge.
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Quote by ikey_
heavily leaning on the air classic. seems a little higher output than the stock carvin but still considered vintage, and people says its a great open, airy, not muddy neck pup.

any experience with thiese?


from what i can remember they're very low output. according to DM website they're only ~200mV output. that's lower than the PAF.
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First, ditto pix!

Second, check out the offerings from Lace (Alumitones), RailHammer (HyperVintage or Chisel), and Tesla (OPUS or VR series). Rio Grandes might also be in your price range.
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