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progbass
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#7001
Fear not, I see your request but work has me booked for a whole week... So I'll offer what I can in short snippets.

I wasn't a fan of the mix.
Midwinter was actually great, solid song structure
Black lake dragged a little to long in the intro, but it was well done and had a grand slam moment... Sadly after it seems they tried to jam to many ideas in.
The others were forgettable from what I recall.

What I remember the most was hyping it up and being super upset with the end product. I'm also a big fan of ashes which meanders but in a tasteful (imoimoimoimoimo) way.

And Agalloch is indie metal. Well done indie metal but they certainly stayed from their black metal roots. Inside metal doesn't always mean bad. I think Fen's malediction fields is another well done indie album, though the follow-up was trash sadly.
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beadhangingOne
Gnomesaiyan?
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#7002
Quote by VampireGoldfish
And their post-rock stuff is great, but what makes it their best? I don't see it.


It just sounds better incorporated into their sound. When I listen to a song like Into the Painted Grey, what I hear is failure. It sounds like black metal that goes nowhere.

The post-rock stuff was less boring.

I also cannot fathom why so much of UG considers The Mantle to be their best. It's great but doesn't stand above the others.


I agree. Ashes is probably the best, but then obviously I would say that.
VampireGoldfish
Suddenly...
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#7003
Quote by progbass

And Agalloch is indie metal.


Bergtatt?
Dance of December Souls?
Lost Paradise?
Dances From Left?
Arntor?

Indulge me, would you classify these as Indie Metal?
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
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Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
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progbass
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#7004
Quote by VampireGoldfish
Bergtatt?
Dance of December Souls?
Lost Paradise?
Dances From Left?
Arntor?

Indulge me, would you classify these as Indie Metal?

Bergtatt is the only one that closes in on that description and barely at that.
Not really familiar with Paradise Lost or whoever does Dances From the Left.
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VampireGoldfish
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#7005
Dance of December Souls is so similar to Pale Folklore and From Which of This Oak that I can't understand claiming that it should be separately categorized from Bertgatt and Agalloch. Same with Lost Paradise. Arntor is filled to the brim with melody, harmonies and folkish tendencies that are atypical of your Black Metal definition that they too would be Indie Metal.

Also Proggy check out Dances From Left, mandatory listening. It was just reissued on wax and it is a damn fine album. Still pretty unique to this day and has aged like a fine wine.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Kepulix
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#7006
Quote by VampireGoldfish
Dances From Left
The best vocals in Finnish DM. Such a beast of an album in every way.

What the fuck is indie metal anyway? It's so ill-defined that to label anything as such seems entirely arbitrary.


On actual topic: The Serpent & the Sphere has been my background music for Dark Souls II for the past few days, and I really like it, even if there are some weaker moments. Granted, I haven't been able to focus entirely on the music and lyrics. Can't wait to get my hands on the physical copy and give it the attention it deserves.
I’m not the man I used to be, I... I can’t go back to Arkham.

I... I should return to Arkham.


Among the churchyard’s mouldering stones I recognise a name – my own.
I have come home to Arkham.

severed-metal
moo
Join date: Nov 2006
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#7007
Indie metal is stuff like Deafheaven. It's like the weird whiney music that talks about feelings and other fantasy and non-proven concepts like love or friendship.
VampireGoldfish
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#7008
Quote by Kepulix

On actual topic: The Serpent & the Sphere has been my background music for Dark Souls II...


Please tell me you're on the PS3...
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
beadhangingOne
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#7009
Quote by severed-metal
Indie metal is stuff like Deafheaven. It's like the weird whiney music that talks about feelings and other fantasy and non-proven concepts like love or friendship.


Feelings? Love? Friendship?


You mean those things gays and women like?
VampireGoldfish
Suddenly...
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#7010
Haha gays and women, right guys? Right? So funny those gays and women.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Kepulix
The Witchfinder
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#7011
Quote by VampireGoldfish
Please tell me you're on the PS3...
PC the master race, of course. (I do play with a 360 controller, though.)
I’m not the man I used to be, I... I can’t go back to Arkham.

I... I should return to Arkham.


Among the churchyard’s mouldering stones I recognise a name – my own.
I have come home to Arkham.

VampireGoldfish
Suddenly...
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#7012
Quote by Kepulix
PC the master race, of course. (I do play with a 360 controller, though.)


I'll definitely be getting a hold of you when I pick up my PC copy. Currently destroying in some PvP on the PS3. I can sit here and talk about PvP endlessly, so I'll spare the Agalloch thread from my needless words.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Kepulix
The Witchfinder
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#7013
I'll decimate any and every opponent who dares to faces me.


Spoiler: I only got the game this week and I haven't played the earlier games at all. Don't expect any miracles from me (except a few lightning spears).
I’m not the man I used to be, I... I can’t go back to Arkham.

I... I should return to Arkham.


Among the churchyard’s mouldering stones I recognise a name – my own.
I have come home to Arkham.

progbass
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#7014
Quote by severed-metal
Indie metal is stuff like Deafheaven. It's like the weird whiney music that talks about feelings and other fantasy and non-proven concepts like love or friendship.

Precisely. I'm confused as to why Dance of December Souls and Windir were thrown into it. I would say early Agalloch apes Katatonia and Ulver whereas by Ashes era there was a distinct departure from the initial aesthetics, which isn't essentially a bad thing. Ashes seemed to me to be the best vehicle for their message.
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The Virtuoso
L'Étranger
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#7015
Quote by Kepulix
I'll decimate any and every opponent who dares to faces me.


Spoiler: I only got the game this week and I haven't played the earlier games at all. Don't expect any miracles from me (except a few lightning spears).



I have been away from these forums for far too long, but no longer. I have at least 500+ hours logged into the original Dark Souls, and a great deal of that was solely dedicated to PvP. I will challenge any man in Dark Souls II once I get a controller for my PC. On the topic of Agalloch. I have the new album, and from a cursory listening last night, I enjoy it. I will have more thoughts on this later.
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Viking fact no. 1: Viking helmets did not have horn.
Viking fact no. 2: Vikings tobogganed on their shields into battle.
Viking fact no. 3: Vikings drank mead.
Viking fact no. 4: One of your ancestors are likely to have been raped by a viking.
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#7017
Quote by The Virtuoso
I have been away from these forums for far too long, but no longer. I have at least 500+ hours logged into the original Dark Souls, and a great deal of that was solely dedicated to PvP. I will challenge any man in Dark Souls II once I get a controller for my PC.



You just threw down the gauntlet. I cannot wait to parry you continuously into oblivion and steal the joy of victory from you again and again.

Now I have to only get it for the PC and start some characters on it...

But I have been with From Software since the Kings Field days on the PlayStation. Logged a disgraceful amount of hours into Demons Souls and Dark Souls and I am a PvP nerd of the highest caliber.

I don't really plan on using a mule on the PC, so you'll have to wait a bit for me to get two characters to SL150 or so, which is where I've been feeling the sweet spot for remaining competitive in PvP.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
The Virtuoso
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#7018
Quote by VampireGoldfish
You just threw down the gauntlet. I cannot wait to parry you continuously into oblivion and steal the joy of victory from you again and again.

Now I have to only get it for the PC and start some characters on it...

But I have been with From Software since the Kings Field days on the PlayStation. Logged a disgraceful amount of hours into Demons Souls and Dark Souls and I am a PvP nerd of the highest caliber.

I don't really plan on using a mule on the PC, so you'll have to wait a bit for me to get two characters to SL150 or so, which is where I've been feeling the sweet spot for remaining competitive in PvP.



Oh man. It is fukking on! I declare a UG Metal Forum Souls Battle Royale.

I have been with From Software since Demons Souls, so you have that on me, but I have also logged a ridiculous amount of hours into Demons Souls and Dark Souls. I am also a PvP nerd of the highest caliber. Have I parried the moonlight greatsword's charge attack? Check. Have I won 3v1 spawn ganks? Double check. Do I use a shield? Fukk that. Shields are for pussies who can't parry with a rapier on the offhand and a katana in the right. However, I have been out of practice for months, but I will change that starting tonight.

I still have Dark Souls and Demons Souls on Ps3 if you want to PvP on playstation. I haven't started playing Dark Souls II on pc yet, so it will also take me awhile to get up to speed on the game. My brother owns Dark Souls II on playstation, so I may be able to borrow his copy and catch up to you on playstation if necessary.

Also, after listening to the new album for a second time. I like it. It's different, and the opening track is monolithic.

EDIT: SUPER IMPORTANT VG and to others who want Dark Souls II on PC.

If you want Dark Souls II on PC, you should but it on greenmangaming.com ASAP! There is a 25% off voucher that is good until tomorrow 4 p.m. UTC. Just go through the checkout process and enter the following voucher code when you see a field asking for it:

9HZ09L-D4RYEU-FIW8BE

Should come out to about $37.80 or something like that.
Quote by Senor Kristian
Viking fact no. 1: Viking helmets did not have horn.
Viking fact no. 2: Vikings tobogganed on their shields into battle.
Viking fact no. 3: Vikings drank mead.
Viking fact no. 4: One of your ancestors are likely to have been raped by a viking.
Last edited by The Virtuoso at May 9, 2014,
VampireGoldfish
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#7019
The Serpent & The Sphere is the first Agalloch release to fall flat on my ears. It does however make me really want to spin From Which of This Oak.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
The Virtuoso
L'Étranger
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#7021
I'm sad to say I agree with you VG. I listened to the album multiple times hoping that I just needed to listen more to appreciate all of the subtitles; alas, this was not the case.
Quote by Senor Kristian
Viking fact no. 1: Viking helmets did not have horn.
Viking fact no. 2: Vikings tobogganed on their shields into battle.
Viking fact no. 3: Vikings drank mead.
Viking fact no. 4: One of your ancestors are likely to have been raped by a viking.
Kepulix
The Witchfinder
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#7022
I'm really enjoying the new album and my enjoyment seems to only grow with each listen.

The opener has incredible restrained atmosphere. The following interlude is less effective, but man when The Astral Dialogue kicks in with the bass guitar that sounds like a mountain crumbling away... It's awesome.

I, for one, welcome The Serpent & the Sphere into Agalloch's oeuvre with open arms.
I’m not the man I used to be, I... I can’t go back to Arkham.

I... I should return to Arkham.


Among the churchyard’s mouldering stones I recognise a name – my own.
I have come home to Arkham.

VampireGoldfish
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#7023
I'm going to keep giving it listening time. It is not offensive to my ears, it just hasn't taken hold of me.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Emenius Sleepus
Blaze above the ashes
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#7024
I'm with Kep on this one. It's not without flaws, but I feel a lot of spirit behind it so I can forgive some composition problems. Probably helped by the fact that I binged on Twin Peaks for the last few weeks; for some reason A's music and TP go together really well for me

"Национальный танец русских - это на ваших ебаных могилах".
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darkstar2466
Fly, you fools
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#7025
It recently struck me that much of Agalloch's career has been a reproduction of Ulver's Bergtatt.
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elatihc
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#7026
I am enjoying most of the new album, it is by no means the best they have put out but I feel it is better than Marrow.
VampireGoldfish
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#7027
That thing that starts at about 2:35 in Celestial Effigy is the best thing about The Serpent & The Sphere, which has remained quite an average listen.

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Quote by darkstar2466
It recently struck me that much of Agalloch's career has been a reproduction of Ulver's Bergtatt.


Or at least a significant amount of Agalloch's best work. Doesn't detract from it at all though. Pale Folklore is the best version of Bergtatt ever and triumphs Ulver's incredible album in its own right.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
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#7028
Quote by VampireGoldfish
and triumphs Ulver's incredible album in its own right


No. I have nothing more to contribute.
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#7029
I hold both in equal regard, but have a personal connection with Pale Folklore that gives it some emotional heft.

This Old Cabin is also stellar.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Teeth2483
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#7030
Alright, I need help guys. I figured out the first part of Birch White with no dramas, but the second part starting around 26 seconds is doing my head in. I'm using a crappy guitar that isn't helping with the sound, so I ask for your help, oh wise guitarists of UG.
progbass
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#7031
Err it's alternating G and B minor chords for the verse, and the chorus was A minor, C, E minor.

Pretty sure that's all there is to it. Occasionally an F# minor chord pops up in the verse and I just play E5 to F5 for the post chorus bit.
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Atomic_Assault
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#7033
Following 20 years, 5 full length albums, many tours around the world, and numerous other recordings, John Haughm and the rest of the band (Don Anderson, Jason Walton, and Aesop Dekker) have parted ways. What the future holds for the separate parties remains undetermined. We collectively thank all of our fans across the world. There are also way too many other people to thank who made this band possible. You know who you are.


Fuck.

Update:

After being inundated by a barrage of responses, I feel that I should clarify some things. I take full responsibility for the decision to part ways with the other guys. It was difficult, well thought-out, and something that had been culminating over the past couple of years. I simply could not continue any further with the band as it was. I had to make a change as my motivation and inspiration had started to completely deteriorate. Whether this is the permanent end of Agalloch altogether or a possible fresh start, I don't know. I probably won't know for awhile. The band has simply been reduced back to its founding, visionary member for the first time in 20 years. Beyond that, the future is unknown.
- J. Haughm
In the days of darkness men feared not the sword and the lance
Nor did he fear the beast of fire... He feared...
THE AXEMAN!!





The Earth is covered in ash and our lungs have filled with worms...
Last edited by Atomic_Assault at May 13, 2016,
Broadsword
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#7034
Damn it. If the band is done, perhaps it is for the best, then. The first three albums are and always will be a classic triumvirate of atmospheric and progressive metal releases.

Cheers to my favorite band.
MHDrunk
The Mad Baron
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#7035
Fagalloch as a wise man once said today
O what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships demons, should conquer a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ!

The music winners listen to
ctfod
Your move, creep
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#7036
Shame. I had a couple of chances to see them every so often but never got round to it. I feel like putting on The Mantle/Marrow of the Spirit right now
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#7037
Quote by MHDrunk
Fagalloch as a wise man once said today


Aye most of my contemporaries feel the same. I'm the exception but only so much. Thoughts on Katatonia - Dance of December Souls and Ulver - Bergtatt?

I'm ok with Agalloch stepping down now. The best work they did recently was The White if you ask me. I enjoyed The Serpent and The Sphere but it stands no chance when paired against Pale Folklore.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
theogonia777
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#7038
Quote by VampireGoldfish
I'm ok with Agalloch stepping down now. The best work they did recently was The White if you ask me. I enjoyed The Serpent and The Sphere but it stands no chance when paired against Pale Folklore.


Yeah. It's always nice to see bands call it a day before they hit rock bottom.
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Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


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Kristen is very open-minded; believes that everyone is entitled to her opinion...


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omg its better than i imagined... so dark and cozy and warm...


Read this please.
VampireGoldfish
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#7039
I've talked to each member extensively every time I see them live and Agalloch was definitely an over-glorified hobby for each member. Which is 100% fine, particularly when you can step down with such grace. You can feel how even though they love their albums it wasn't really aching to come out of their hearts.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
severed-metal
moo
Join date: Nov 2006
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#7040
Hm, shame. I am a closet Agalloch fan. What can ya do. Hopefully this gives them more time to work on their other projects, although I don't think Agalloch hindered them very much anyways.

Would love to hear more Sculptured though. Always rubs me the right way.