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#83
Quote by Brownsound5150
http://www.vintagekramer.com/Ed/guitar-purppacer.jpg
I love this guitar, but I can't find it for sale anywhere, its a Kramer Pacer!
I like the 83' kramer pacer special


Thats a strat-head Pacer in that picture you posted, tough to find. '83 Pacer Specials have the 'beak' headstocks like mine. Here's a photo.....



They pop up from time to time on Ebay and Craigslist but are also not easy to find especially with original parts. You gotta be careful, lots of parts mutts out there being passed off as Kramers with aftermarket necks and so on. If you really wanna get one then be patient and join the Kramer Forum, lots of info from the guys there.
2003 Music Man Axis Pacific Blue Burst
#84
Quote by SenorSmiley
To prove these were versitile these are the folks I could THINK OF that played these

Eddie Van Halen (VH)
Mark Kendall (Great White)
Elliot Easton (CCR, The Cars)
Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi, Heather Locklear)
John Stamos (The Beach Boys)
Erik Turner (Warrant)
George Lynch
Richie Sambora
Steve Stevens
Gene Simmons
Joe Satriani
John Bon Jovi
Sam Kinnison
Steve Vai
Dweezil Zappa
Rick Neilson
Elliott Easton

Buck Dharma
Vivian Campbell
Peter Frampton
Scotty Hill
Stanley Jordan

Howard Leese
Ron Wood
Kasim Sulton (Joan Jett)
Paul Dean
Reb Beach
Brad Gillis

Jeff Watson
Mark Miller (Sawyer Brown)
Nancy Wilson
Dave Hope (Kansas)
Jimi Bell
Rachel Bolan
Benji King (Scandal)
Billy Squier
Tim Bogert
Alex Belov
Richie Scarlet
Steve Buslowe (Meatloaf)
Peter Briquette
Eric Bloom BOC
Eric Britingham
Jeff Labar
Jan Ianenkov
Joan Jett
Chris DeGarmo
Frank Carillo
Scotty Hill (Skid Row)
Michael Lardi (Great White)
Billy Childs
Ricky Byrd
Trevor Bolder
Mick Ronson
Eddie Ojeda (Twisted Sister)
Glen Burtnick
Randy Jackson (Zebra)
Dave Amati
Bobby Bandiera
Adam Bomb
Gerald Carboy
Larry Hansen
Michael Fath

Jay Jay French
Cain Roberts (Alice Cooper)
Liz Chizm
Justin Clayton
Falicia Collins
Mick Mars
Thaddeus Castanis
Jeff Golub
Kenny Dubman
Barry Dunaway
Marshal Grant
Ray Moulton (Billy Cobham)
Rick Defonzo
Randy Dorman
Bernard Edwards
Ian Hill (Judas Priest)
Doug Wimbish (Rolling Stones)
Lenny Colton
Joe Franco
Rick Harper
Julian Lennon
Jerry Hensley (Johnny Cash)
Lol Creme
Steve Lynch
Keith Mack (Scandal)
Scott Metaxas (Prophet)
Tracii Guns (Guns & Roses)
Andy Timmons
Ted Nugent
Duff McKagan
Carmine Rojas
Robert Parissi (Wild Cherry)
Don Kieselbach
Dave Kiswiney
Mark Mendoza (Blackfoot)
Nile Rogers
Chuck Jacobs Kenny Rogers
Nick Moroch (Lenny White)
Hank Williams, Jr.
Rick Pierce (Q5)
T. M. Stevens
Derek Holt (Climax Blues)
Randy Rand
(Autograph)
Paul Pesco (Madonna
Keith Richards
Dee Snider
Jimmy Ripp (Yoko Ono)
Joe Perry (Aerosmith)
Dennis Pepa (Death Angel)
loyd Rose
Nancy Wilson (Heart)
Michael Ray (Wendy O)
Michael Rutherford
Snake Sabo (Skid Row)
Derek St. Holmes ( Nugent)
Chris Oliva (Savatage)
Kim Simmonds (Savoy Brown)
John Siegler (Roger Daltrey)
Phil Sousan (Billy Idol)
Nikki Sixx (Motley Crue)
Steven Van Zandt
Bob Wootton (Johnny Cash)
Keith Scott (Bryan Adams).
Peter Sears (Starship)
Alex Such (Bon Jovi)
Leslie West
Wayne Parker (Glass Tiger)
Greg Lake
Jon Butcher
Dave Meneketti (YNT)
Gary Talent
Michael Wilton (Queensryche)

etc...

Tom Anderson was their head designer and the Kramer Elliot Easton looks a heck of a lot like a TA



THE MAN


Nice partial list! In the 80s almost every pro guitarist had at least one Kramer.
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#86
Quote by RiseTheFallen
I got a Baretta from '87, Pacer Deluxe '86 and recently a Pacer Classic. Kramers rule!


Cool!
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#87
My 2010 Gary Kramer Custom. It's still all original and staying that way.

Not sorry about the huge pics.


#88
Quote by Way Cool JR.
My 2010 Gary Kramer Custom. It's still all original and staying that way.

Not sorry about the huge pics.




Very Nice!
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#89
Upper fret access on that thing must be killer!

Nice guitar!
Main Rig:

Epiphone MKH Les Paul Custom 7 - Ronda
Ibanez RG8 "Scarlet" - AKA The Rambanez
Fender Strat "Danielle"/"Dani"
Line 6 POD HD Pro
Randall XL 4x12

Come join us...

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#90
Quote by LP1951
Very Nice!

Thanks a-lot man!

Quote by Charvel1995
Upper fret access on that thing must be killer!

Nice guitar!


It is, no probs getting to the 22nd fret on all 6 strings.
Last edited by Way Cool JR. at Jan 8, 2013,
#91
Okay heres mine. She's beat to all hell, looks a mess, but damn it she still shreds like a beast from hell.

I present to you a 1986-'87 Kramer stiker 100ST with a Bill Lawrence pup.



Quote by FatalGear41
In the end, the only question is: what bass would Jesus play?

I think he's a Fender Jazz guy.
#92
Good to see Kramer Love on this forum! Late 80s & early 2000s Kramers are great guitars!
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#94
Quote by its_minchew
1984 Kramer 500st with case on CL for $300....god I hate being unemployed...

Then what ever you do, DO NOT check the used section on guitar centers web site.
Quote by FatalGear41
In the end, the only question is: what bass would Jesus play?

I think he's a Fender Jazz guy.
#95
Thanks for the heads up. Job interview tomorrow though so maybe I can add a Kramer or 3 to My arsenal
#96
Quote by its_minchew
Thanks for the heads up. Job interview tomorrow though so maybe I can add a Kramer or 3 to My arsenal


Good Luck to U on getting the job and more Kramers !
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#97
i really want an imperial. anybody have any experience with those?
Ibanez VBT700
Zoom G1on
Amplitube 4/Reaper (Lepou)

Squier Chris Aiken Precision Bass (EMG GZR)
Ampeg 108B
#98
Quote by romeozdistress
i really want an imperial. anybody have any experience with those?



Never played a Gibson/Kramer Imperial, but I own 2 early 2000s Gibson/Kramers and they are excellent guitars with quality parts.
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#99
nice.
Ibanez VBT700
Zoom G1on
Amplitube 4/Reaper (Lepou)

Squier Chris Aiken Precision Bass (EMG GZR)
Ampeg 108B
#100
Thanks! I actually got the job so I'm going to start looking more seriously into grabbing an 80s Kramer. Always wanted one.
#101
Quote by its_minchew
Thanks! I actually got the job so I'm going to start looking more seriously into grabbing an 80s Kramer. Always wanted one.


Congrats! Hope you find some great Kramers too.
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#102
I would avoid the plywood strikers, if you want a cheap 80s Kramer get a Focus, but the "American" Kramers can be found cheap as hell if you have patience.
#103
Quote by RiseTheFallen
... but the "American" Kramers can be found cheap as hell if you have patience.


The late 80s (86-90) American Series (Stagemaster, ProAxe & Showster) Kramers were the most innovative guitar designs which later were copied by nearly all of the manufacturers of FR equipped guitars. The early 80s Kramers were more traditional design with basic Strat-like bodies. You can find great deals on 80s Kramers on ebay and CL.

http://www.vintagekramer.com/company12.htm
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#104
This.
Quote by treborillusion
Low end Epiphone = fire wood.

LTD Surveyor 4
Kramer Imperial
Engl Gigmaster E315
Marshall 1936 JCM900 lead cab
My website
#105
Quote by Boonnoo666
This.


VERY Nice. i want a black one. just need to find out if its worth $250
Ibanez VBT700
Zoom G1on
Amplitube 4/Reaper (Lepou)

Squier Chris Aiken Precision Bass (EMG GZR)
Ampeg 108B
#106
Quote by romeozdistress
VERY Nice. i want a black one. just need to find out if its worth $250



If it had a Floyd Rose, it would definitely be worth $250, but I wouldn't pay $250 for a stop tail.
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#107
After 10+ years of owning my Kramer FR422, it is still one of my favorite guitars, very versatile, great neck, and excellent pups. My 422 and my MIM are the two guitars, I enjoy playing the most.
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#108
Quote by DSOTM80
Well this thread has been dead for a while so lets try and liven it up a bit. I recently got a hold of some up close pictures through the Kramer Forum of Ed's Kramer 5150. This is not a replica but the actual guitar.
Anyways, the pictures.....

From the information I've received the guitar now has a different pickup then it did back in the 80's and has had that specific pickup for about 10 years now apparently.

Back in the day....


...and how it is now





Here's a nice close up of the broken headstock, the repair job done by Music Man and the extra tuner added so Ed could use it in the mean time. You can also see the remains of the Music Man sticker that was put over the Kramer logo when Ed signed with them back in the early 90's.


This is a sad picture. In 2004 Ed used this guitar on their tour a few times and added a Charvel neck with a striped fingerboard not only that but to make the neck fit on the body they had to resize/make the neck pocket bigger thus changing the body forever that the original neck will no longer fit. Ahh drunken Ed and his dumb ideas


Awesome!
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
#111
The Kramer SuperTele:
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“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
Last edited by LP1951 at Jan 15, 2013,
#112
The price is partially what attracted me to It. I'm a huge EVH fan. I'll probably replace the harware and order a Dimarzio Crunch Lab to put In It instead of the included chinese generibucker.
#113
Quote by its_minchew
The price is partially what attracted me to It. I'm a huge EVH fan. I'll probably replace the harware and order a Dimarzio Crunch Lab to put In It instead of the included chinese generibucker.


Yes that is a great price.
“You’re always learning about this thing every time you pick it up.” Keith Richards
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