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Patsfan1281
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#1
Do taking the back off have an affect on the sound or is just the looks
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It has no effect on either. How could taking the back cover off improve the tone?

The reason they take it off is to make it easier to access the springs in the back when one needs to.
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In mycase I changed out hte tone block and it's just a little too long for the cavity. If I have the cover on, the springs push it out.

So I left it off and I'm happy with it like that.
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#5
I don't leave mine off just because I'm paranoid that a spring will pop out and hit me in the c*ck.
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I don't leave mine off just because I'm paranoid that a spring will pop out and hit me in the c*ck.



Have you considered shortening your strap?
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#7
Some people claim it helps tone but I never noticed anything. I was just too lazy to put it back on after blocking the trem.
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how often does one change the springs in the back of a guitar?? i can see adjusting it when you change strings but its not often enough to keep it off

i keep mine on cuz my guitar stand's back support would be holding the guitar right where the springs are and it would **** up my guitar. and shirt or pants can get caught in there, also looks better with it on

apparently its suppose to affect the tone in some way. something about the plastic absorbs some of the tone or some shit like that.some people believe it some dont .....
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To my ears it has a subtle (though I can't say better or worse) effect on the tone. For whatever reason I've chosen to leave mine off so I guess it sounds better without.
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#10
I leave it off because it's more comfortable that way. I don't think there's any tone difference, just an aesthetic and comfort choice.
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Quote by Rocketface2112
how often does one change the springs in the back of a guitar?? i can see adjusting it when you change strings but its not often enough to keep it off

i keep mine on cuz my guitar stand's back support would be holding the guitar right where the springs are and it would **** up my guitar. and shirt or pants can get caught in there, also looks better with it on

apparently its suppose to affect the tone in some way. something about the plastic absorbs some of the tone or some shit like that.some people believe it some dont .....

It's not so much about changing the springs as adjusting them.
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#12
On my guitars with back plates (All Floyd's, but same thing), I have them velcroed on, that way, I have easy spring access, and the plate can hold my spring mutes in place.
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#13
I remove the trem cover because I wear my guitar rather high and it's uncomfortable against my ribs.
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It's not so much about changing the springs as adjusting them.



ok but why is there a need to ever constantly be changing the tension of the springs? like i said its normally done when you change strings, one time, its set its done. of course if you change string gauges. thats different, but still you only set it one time.
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Quote by Rocketface2112
ok but why is there a need to ever constantly be changing the tension of the springs? like i said its normally done when you change strings, one time, its set its done. of course if you change string gauges. thats different, but still you only set it one time.


Different tunings. Some people change it up alot and don't own multiple guitars to compensate.
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#16
Mojo. A Strat with the back cover on can't let out the maximum amount of mojo.

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I don't leave mine off just because I'm paranoid that a spring will pop out and hit me in the c*ck.



Have you considered shortening your strap?


Well, if he doesn't do that, and a spring DOES pop out and hit him in the c*ck, both of his "straps" will be shortened.
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#18
I keep it off because it's useless and can only serve to annoy me. That's the same reason I often leave truss rod covers off.

Plus, it's a Strat. I don't even think a strat should be clear coated. To me it's just a workhorse guitar.
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They take off the cover so that it is easier to lose. This way, when they sell it to Guitar Center, they won't be able to find the trem cover.

That's why practically every ******* used guitar at Guitar Center has no trem cover. It's a global conspiracy, I tell you!
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#20
Quote by Rocketface2112
apparently its suppose to affect the tone in some way. something about the plastic absorbs some of the tone or some shit like that.some people believe it some dont .....

Quick! someone make a back plate out of mahogany! knowing guitarists they would sell out in a heartbeat
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#22
all back covers and truss rod covers off on every guitar i own. they are perfectly indexed for each guitar in a Ziploc bag.

i just like it that way.
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#23
Easyness for string changes is why I do it. The way my trem is set up it's kinda hard for me to reach the block holes to put strings through/take them out if I have the back plate on, so I just keep it off.
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#24
i have a couple of guitars where the holes in the trem cover don't line up with the string slots on the sustain block when i have the trem set up the way i want it, so I just leave the cover off, to avoid having to unscrew it every time i change strings.

i always keep the plate and the screws neatly tucked away in the case.
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#27
Guys, just look at all the used Strats on ebay/CL with the back plate missing. Ask the seller WTF happend to it and they always say they lost it. I have been told "Strat players leave it off because it improves the tone." And of course they lost it so if you buy the guitar you have to go scouring ebay looking for parts.

Personally I would never leave the back plate off a guitar, I'm paranoid one spring might pop out and I'd get injured. Just the other day in fact I was making some adjustments on one guitar and one really did pop out! Back plate saved my life!
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#28
I took the hidden back plate off of my Tele after reading this thread.

It's ruined now. Thanks.
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#29
The manual that comes with new Strats says the leaving off the trem cavity cover improves your playing ability by 8%. I tried it. Its true.
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#30
Well, I do notice some difference in tone when I take the cover off. And it's much more practical.
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#31
Don't take it off!!!

You'll let all the tone out!!!
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#32
I can't play naked with the back plate off anymore since I got my wiener caught in the springs
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#33
If they take them off to perform a task on the instrument and replace them when finished (or at least before they sell said instrument, especially to me...) I have no problem with it.

If they take them off and leave them off, it's because they are lazy, useless, illiterate, mechanically inept, syphilis infested twats!!
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I can't play naked with the back plate off anymore since I got my wiener caught in the springs

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I can't play naked with the back plate off anymore since I got my wiener caught in the springs


Your belly hair might get caught in the springs! Ouch!
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Your belly hair might get caught in the springs! Ouch!


Depends on how long the strap is....
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#37
Quote by ProphetToJables
I don't leave mine off just because I'm paranoid that a spring will pop out and hit me in the c*ck.


Amen, if the back is off my RR and I'm sitting, the springs are right next to my boys so if I'm playing like that I put a pillow behind the guitar.

On my RR I just use 2/6 screws for ease of access and the rest have easy access back plates. I think a worn out Strat without out a back plate looks cool but I'd never keep mine off permanently.
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I think it may have started way back during the early days when the b-bender and hipshot tremolo devices were coming on the scene. I remember one old guitar I seen and it had a lever bolted to the sustain block so the player could use manipulate the tremolo without using the bar.
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