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#2
god I hope so
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#3
They got funding easily because they're a known band. Have to see how it works out with an unknown band first.
#6
Given that Bandcamp allows bands to get their music out a lot easier and for a great price, if any, and adding in the rise of Kickstarter, this was sort of to be expected.

I don't think it's fair to use PtH as an example of leading a new model, primarily because they're already pretty well established in the "Prog punk metalcore stuffz" scene. It'd be cool to see a new band use this model and the results end up being good, though.
#7
To a degree, yes. But this has been a long time coming. I'd say that record labels are on their way out, fortunately.
#8
Wait... so they ask for funding to do the album, then charge people for the album? Why not use the money from the last album for this one?

Edit: nevermind, just read through the second link.
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#9
I am astonished and overjoyed to see this many people supporting a band that deserves it so much so quickly... but this won't work any time soon for anybody that isn't already relatively successful to begin with. But hell, maybe if tons of established bands start doing this it will force record labels to continue picking up new bands that deserve success.
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They got funding easily because they're a known band. Have to see how it works out with an unknown band first.


Not unknown, but certainly a band that had fallen out of the more mainstreamy popularity that used to have, InMe did this last year and received 314% of their goal. The singer's less known solo work hit 492% of his goal. InMe asked for a similar amount to PtH, Dave Macca asked for around 2/3rds of it, IIRC.

PtH aren't showing us the future of music- plenty of bands have been doing it- the aforementioned, Serj Tankian, The Rasmus, SoIL and plenty of others have done it, PtH are just joining a trend.
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Not unknown, but certainly a band that had fallen out of the more mainstreamy popularity that used to have, InMe did this last year and received 314% of their goal. The singer's less known solo work hit 492% of his goal. InMe asked for a similar amount to PtH, Dave Macca asked for around 2/3rds of it, IIRC.

PtH aren't showing us the future of music- plenty of bands have been doing it- the aforementioned, Serj Tankian, The Rasmus, SoIL and plenty of others have done it, PtH are just joining a trend.

This seems like a great way for established bands to break with their labels, but it's still too early to see if it'll be a way for new bands to break into the business. I think it'd be a lot harder for a local band to amass any amount of funds, especially if this becomes a popular way of funding recordings.
#13
Protest the Hero are playing in a dive bar in my town in a couple weeks that I've played a bunch of times, 5 times this year actually, and are playing with crappy local bands that friends I have are in. tickets are 10 bucks and the facebook page has under 100 people going. Sure seems like things aregoing well for them!
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Protest the Hero are playing in a dive bar in my town in a couple weeks that I've played a bunch of times, 5 times this year actually, and are playing with crappy local bands that friends I have are in. tickets are 10 bucks and the facebook page has under 100 people going. Sure seems like things aregoing well for them!


Bigger bands than them let crappy local bands open all the time, and Facebook event pages are a horrible way to judge how many people are actually going.
#15
If the future is shitty music, then yes, they are the future.
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Not unknown, but certainly a band that had fallen out of the more mainstreamy popularity that used to have, InMe did this last year and received 314% of their goal. The singer's less known solo work hit 492% of his goal. InMe asked for a similar amount to PtH, Dave Macca asked for around 2/3rds of it, IIRC.

PtH aren't showing us the future of music- plenty of bands have been doing it- the aforementioned, Serj Tankian, The Rasmus, SoIL and plenty of others have done it, PtH are just joining a trend.


Boom, knowledge bomb.

As a side note - I chipped in a few quid on the InMe fund.
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#19
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This seems like a great way for established bands to break with their labels, but it's still too early to see if it'll be a way for new bands to break into the business. I think it'd be a lot harder for a local band to amass any amount of funds, especially if this becomes a popular way of funding recordings.


True. It's going to be one of those things that filters down rather than work it's way up. If a local, up and coming band can utilise this alongside social media and offering the right incentives etc, it just might work (and if they only take the money once the goal is reached). I can see it failing for a lot of bands though, because a lot of small, local bands don't understand the concepts of networking and advertisement. Pledgemusic, Kickstarter etc should only be considered as a tool, but it needs everything else to work properly. Putting a percentage to a charity via pledges doesn't harm anything either.
#20
I would like to see how much their new album is pirated and how that compares to when they were with a label.
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#21
Totally wanted the Rody Karaoke option.

It's pretty amazing how quickly they hit their target amount.
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I would like to see how much their new album is pirated and how that compares to when they were with a label.


well since they're presaling their album (with an early release date) to donaters, they might avoid the travesty that happened with scurrilous where everybody got the album a month ahead of time due to leaks and the band got screwed entirely.
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well since they're presaling their album (with an early release date) to donaters, they might avoid the travesty that happened with scurrilous where everybody got the album a month ahead of time due to leaks and the band got screwed entirely.


I didn't even notice the early release date thing. That's pretty cool.

They've already sold a few thousand copies and they're not even done writing it. I'm gonna go ahead and so piracy is no longer a problem for these guys.
#26
I love Protest the Hero. Just wanted to say that. I also donated an undisclosed sum, will again if any new perks come up with the next 28 days of the deadline.

This is a pretty neat way of releasing an album, I'm glad they jumped onto the "Fu! labels" wagon. All the more support to guys that make me happy music and go see at their shows (albeit once in australia..).. They need to come down to Aus more. But that's expensive I guess. : (
#28
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They got funding easily because they're a known band. Have to see how it works out with an unknown band first.


A band I know who are relatively small with 2000 likes on facebook got funding for their first album through a similar scheme.
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#29
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I remember when bands used to get money from their fans after they had recorded their album.

That's pretty difficult these days.
#30
I don't know them or their music, but those perks are both hilarious and ingenious
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#32
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I would like to see how much their new album is pirated and how that compares to when they were with a label.


From what I gather though, it wouldn't matter too much. Since they are not with a label, the label doesn't need to recoup their costs as the costs are already paid for by the fans, so when they release the album they're pretty much even and all album sales would be profit (instead of album sales paying back to the label).
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#34
My band did a crowdfunding thing for our debut EP. We've only just started gigging in the last 6 months or so and only have a couple of hundred Facebook fans so we set a modest goal of $1000 AUD and got around 125% of it at the end of our campaign. Not enough to fund the entire EP but it helped a lot, especially considering half of our band members are unemployed.

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#35
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Protest the Hero are playing in a dive bar in my town in a couple weeks that I've played a bunch of times, 5 times this year actually, and are playing with crappy local bands that friends I have are in. tickets are 10 bucks and the facebook page has under 100 people going. Sure seems like things aregoing well for them!

Protest plays a ton of shitty bars in Canada because that's where they started and they like the feel of the really small venue

I bought the vinyl option. Seemed pretty cool.


Also, they don't seem to care if people pirate their music. Hell, I've seen live videos where Rody is all "Now go buy our album. Or pirate it. IDGAF"
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#36
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From what I gather though, it wouldn't matter too much. Since they are not with a label, the label doesn't need to recoup their costs as the costs are already paid for by the fans, so when they release the album they're pretty much even and all album sales would be profit (instead of album sales paying back to the label).


most of these "donations" are actually album presales, since a lot of people are buying the perks available. so basically, they're selling the album in advance so all they're obligated to do is release a good album, and it's already sold. this gives them the propulsion required to get back on the road and (as i said before) helps avoid the inevitable piracy that comes after the album drops

it's not 100% original, but that presale twist i think is a gem of an idea. another (lesser known) band was doing this as well but i honestly can't remember their names, it was quite recent though. it's an idea i'm definitely interested to see develop, cause it really does, basically, cause how are you going to torrent something that won't exist unless you pay for it?
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#37
More like the past. Marillion has successfully been doing this since the 90s.

And they did it without Facebook or Indiegogo, to boot.
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#38
It works with unknown bands too, or relatively unknown anyway. Dorje - Rob Chapman's band did this to fund their tour with the drills this year
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#39
It's not like this is the first time somebody's made a ton of money on Kickstarter
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