omertaxtasy
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I'm getting a new guitar and I have two choices in mind, from which I can't choose!

1. Epiphone Zakk Wylde Bullseye Les Paul
2. Fender Mexican Standard Stratocaster,if I buy this I'm installing Fender Texas Specials.

I've played them and both the guitars feel equally good with my hands.

I play blues rock, rock 'n' roll, southern rock and classical. A bit of metal too, sometimes.

Anyone help me choose?
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The Strat would be better suited for the styles you play regularly. Plus you know what you want to do with it already. Why not look at a used US Standard? For the price of the pickups and Mexican you're nearly there!
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Just to add, the Lace Golds are much nicer than the Texas Specials IMO.
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Only thing is the Strat will pretty much die when you try and do metal.

I think a HSS (humbucker in bridge, single coils in middle and neck) Strat would suit you!
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i was gonna do a number 2, std MIM strat and texas specials

but may i suggest the fender classic player 60s strat

it's got the custom shop 69 pickups in which sound very similar to texas specials but IMO a bit better.

i play blues mainly (hendrix, SRV, john mayer, BB Kiing) but also some other stuff (Queen, Pink Floyd, Foo Fighters, Green day, led-zep) the list can go on...

and i prefer the 69 pickups than the TS's and i gave both very thorough tests

so buying the CP 60s strat will save you a bit of money too than buying a MIM strat, TS pickups and payaing a man to install them for you.

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The Strat will be a bit more suited to what you are playing, but a standard Les Paul is not exactly a bad choice (not going to swear a Zakk Wylde edition is however).

However, why buy a MiM? I was able to pull a USA Strat for $599, with the Texas Specials, new. That's about what I paid for my Blacktop MiM Strat. By the time you upgrade the pickups, you're likely within lower-end MiA range at least, or used. I do know that there was a MiA SSS Strat used for about the same as I paid for mine new at the local GC, but I can't swear as to what pickups are in it.
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Yeah. Why not go for a guitar with Texas Specials from the start? I'm sure you can find a US Strat for maybe a little bit more money.
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the only correct answer is both.

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Why are you looking at Zakk Wylde Les Paul? I mean, Les Paul Standard would fit those styles much better. So if those are the options to choose from, Fender Strat.
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in all honesty, it would probably be a little more beneficial to save for an american strat.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/fender-american-special-stratocaster-electric-guitar
this one has the Texas Specials in it already.

At any rate, pick the strat. I've been playing strats for years and I have a hard time going to anything else most of the time. I started off as a gibson/epiphone guy but once I picked up a strat, that was all over.

They're very versatile. I play a lot of hard rock, metal, punk and blues with mine. They clean up real good, they have bite and a wide range of tones. for the styles of music you're looking for, the strat is more suitable. You essentially still have humbucking capability in a strat, so in reality, you have the best of both worlds.
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Quote by omertaxtasy
1. Epiphone Zakk Wylde Bullseye Les Paul

This will make you look like a moron trying to be Zakk Wylde, get a Les Paul unique to yourself.
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This will make you look like a moron trying to be Zakk Wylde, get a Les Paul unique to yourself.


What?
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This will make you look like a moron trying to be Zakk Wylde, get a Les Paul unique to yourself.

Don't be a dick. If he wants that guitar, then so be it. He might even want to be in a BLS cover band some years down the road.
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Don't be a dick. If he wants that guitar, then so be it. He might even want to be in a BLS cover band some years down the road.


The irony is, that comment was moronic. I want a new SRV Strat, oh no, maybe people will think I wanna be SRV!
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I've come to the conclusion I really prefer 24.75" scale over 25.5" (short fingers) - so for me: not a strat. For you? Can't say :-D
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The main reason to not buy the Zakk Wylde LP is because it's not really any better than the Standard, just costs more for the (universally agreed to be rubbish) EMG Hz pickups and his name on the headstock.

But if it feels good to you, go for it. Same with the Strat. You can't compare them because they are totally different in every way; other than both having 6 strings, there is nothing they have in common. So buy whichever one feels best in your hands and sounds best to your ears. No reason to choose any other way.
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The main reason to not buy the Zakk Wylde LP is because it's not really any better than the Standard, just costs more for the (universally agreed to be rubbish) EMG Hz pickups and his name on the headstock.

The later ones do have 81/85's
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Ah, well if they've finally sorted that out then there's a little more point, though it does still then draw unfavourable comparisons to the various LTD ECs, Kramer Assaults and Epiphone Prophecy guitars which also have active pickups.
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Go to a music store. Play both. Buy whichever feels best.

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Having owned both, I vote strat. It's a more comfortable guitar for me, and swapping out pickups and such is easy. I like the idea of the MIM option, and swapping the pickups. I've done that a couple of times, with excellent results.
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^ In that regard, the LP is the better guitar; swapping pickups on a LP is quicker than swapping pickups on a Strat, not that such things should matter considering you shouldn't be swapping pickups that frequently anyway.
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ZW LPs, the MIK one I had, was pretty awesome
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I just don't think the active pickups will be that good for the music you are going to play. My experience of active pickups was that they lacked the twang passives had. And for the styles you play I would like to have some twang.
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An Epiphone LP Traditional Pro or Epi LP Custom Pro might work for covering all your bases - I've yet to find anything lacking in the pickups, and with the coil tap, you can cover a wide range of tones.

Generally speaking, though, I have problems with both the LP and the Strat, which is why I'm now playing an SG.
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+1

But for now go for hss strat. Go for a used american strat if possible.


Also The paint jobs on the zw les pauls are kinda cool

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As suppose to a ordinary les paul, which will make you look like a moron trying to look like uh les paul
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wait, you already have a humbucker guitar.

so that was a trick question.

get the strat.
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Dude, you need a new amp.
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Alright people, I played a friend's MIA Standard Strat, and I've decided to lay all other possible options to rest. It was a blissful experience digging that Strat. I'm going for a new USA Standard Stratocaster - Final.

Now, for the pickups. The new one comes with Fat 50's - are they good enough? Or should I swap them with Texas Specials or the DiMarzio Area Set? For the metal styles I like to play - I forgot to mention I already own a low-end Jackson Rhoads, which also has EMG 81/85s - actives.

I also need to get a good amp. I was using a Marshall MG30 till now, but considering a budget of $300-$600, what are good options? (Marshalls, Fender Amps, Vox Amps?)

For the rest of it, I'm currently using a Korg AX3000G and a Boss GT-100.
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Get it, and play it for a while before you change out the pickups. You may like it as it comes.
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A good amp in the $300-600 range? I really like the Tech 21 Trademark 60, which will allow you to go thick and heavy, or clear and bright (or anything you want really). It goes for $600 new and $200-300 used. Granted, it's solid state, but that doesn't personally faze me.

As for tube amps, Peavey's Classic 30 and Classic 50 are also amazing for the money, and I have friends whose Bugera V22s and Blackstar HTs make me drool.
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Quote by omertaxtasy
Alright people, I played a friend's MIA Standard Strat, and I've decided to lay all other possible options to rest. It was a blissful experience digging that Strat. I'm going for a new USA Standard Stratocaster - Final.

Now, for the pickups. The new one comes with Fat 50's - are they good enough? Or should I swap them with Texas Specials or the DiMarzio Area Set? For the metal styles I like to play - I forgot to mention I already own a low-end Jackson Rhoads, which also has EMG 81/85s - actives.

I also need to get a good amp. I was using a Marshall MG30 till now, but considering a budget of $300-$600, what are good options? (Marshalls, Fender Amps, Vox Amps?)

For the rest of it, I'm currently using a Korg AX3000G and a Boss GT-100.

If you are going to buy a Strat and also play metal, a HSS Strat would be worth considering (let's not start "SSS Strat can/'t do metal" war). You still get the middle and neck single coil sounds. And you have a humbucker in the bridge that is maybe more suited to the heavier styles. Try both and decide. It really depends on how much you are going to play metal on the Strat and if you are only going to use your Jackson for metal.
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The Fat 50's are quite possibly my favorite stock pickups Fender has put in a Strat.

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