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tortilla
Registered User
Join date: Jan 2011
587 IQ
#1
I will be participating (as
the lead debater) in two
debates regarding the
issues of the 1920's.
The first topic for debate
is women's suffrage.
My team is opposed
to women's suffrage.
I come to ask The Pit
for arguments to bring
into the debate. I currently
have several subjects to
use, however, I need quite
a few for the entirety of my
team, which is composed
of imbeciles who could not
possibly have much to
contribute.


I would also like to add that
the moderator (teacher) for
the debate is a rather pompous
feminist and it would be quite
pleasurable to have a convincing
argument against women's suffrage
just to see her anger boil in her.
Whenever the Will to Power, in no matter what form, begins to decline, a physiological retrogression, decadence always supervenes.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
MinterMan22
only smells
Join date: Nov 2007
763 IQ
#3
i don't think
that there is
any sort of argument
against women's suffrage
that won't make
you look like
a total dick
..::fat
lard::..
tortilla
Registered User
Join date: Jan 2011
587 IQ
#4
Quote by MinterMan22
i don't think
that there is
any sort of argument
against women's suffrage
that won't make
you look like
a total dick

I was assigned to
be against women's
suffrage. I had no say
in the matter. It's just
my assignment.
Whenever the Will to Power, in no matter what form, begins to decline, a physiological retrogression, decadence always supervenes.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
willT08
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#5
I don't see the use in making people debate such clear cut issues. What's the point in watching one side get battered for an hour?
TunerAddict
Real Ass Nigga
Join date: Aug 2008
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#6
Just leads to married men having 2 votes, as their wives are subservient to them under God's law.
Quote by jrcsgtpeppers

If women can be annoyed there arent any women incongress I should be allowed to be pissed off there are no members of pink floyd or the beatles in congress.
WCPhils
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731 IQ
#7
Quote by willT08
I don't see the use in making people debate such clear cut issues. What's the point in watching one side get battered for an hour?

lol, being on that side is the best part

I've been on the anti gay marriage side, and the anti death penalty side of debates in school. It's fun as shit
___

Quote by The_Blode
she was saying things like... do you want to netflix and chill but just the chill part...too bad she'll never know that I only like the Netflix part...
Eastwinn
through being cool
Join date: Dec 2008
3,131 IQ
#8
say that women belong in the home and thus have no business worrying about the state.

also, if your teacher is such an open feminist, surely she's just doing this to shit all over your team, right? a feminist would otherwise echo will's post.
i don't know why i feel so dry
Holy Katana
Anarcho-Awesomist
Join date: Apr 2005
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#9
tortilla is back,
still setting his posts in
verse, still filled with
awkward enjambment. never
change, tortilla, never
change.
tortilla
Registered User
Join date: Jan 2011
587 IQ
#10
Quote by willT08
I don't see the use in making people debate such clear cut issues. What's the point in watching one side get battered for an hour?

The point, for me at least,
is knowing that I can win
the debate. The intelligence
found in the affirmative team
is even more scarce than that
found in my team. I also know
that the teacher just wants to see
the negating team, "get battered
for an hour."
Whenever the Will to Power, in no matter what form, begins to decline, a physiological retrogression, decadence always supervenes.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
Last edited by tortilla at Mar 18, 2013,
Godsmack_IV
taking out the trash
Join date: Jan 2007
447 IQ
#11
Women don't even tend to vote for other women so what's the point if they're not going to represent themselves? Just more votes for men who already have too many votes to begin with.
Extra Ordinary
Meh
Join date: Jun 2011
197 IQ
#12
Try finding some
points for women's suffrage
and find arguments
against it. You
can prepare for
the opposing team
and get your
own points down.
willT08
Banned
Join date: Jul 2009
2,923 IQ
#14
Quote by WCPhils
lol, being on that side is the best part

I've been on the anti gay marriage side, and the anti death penalty side of debates in school. It's fun as shit

Well I'm not sure being anti-death penalty is as difficult a position to argue as anti-gay marriage or anti-woman's suffrage
ErikLensherr
MGTOW
Join date: Jul 2011
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#15
If women didn't have the vote every presidential election of the past 50 years would've been won by the Republican.
Quote by EpiExplorer
I swear this guy in particular writes for the telegraph or some shit.

Quote by Rossenrot
I was in NYC for all of about 5 minutes until I was called a cracker and called out to fight someone.
Eastwinn
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Join date: Dec 2008
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#16
Quote by willT08
Well I'm not sure being anti-death penalty is as difficult a position to argue as anti-gay marriage or anti-woman's suffrage


have you ever been to the us?
i don't know why i feel so dry
ryan_nadon
ass brain
Join date: Mar 2008
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#17
Stop typing like a complete ****** then maybe I'll give you a serious response.
Quote by SomeoneYouKnew
Your post was the only bright spot in this disgusting piece of thread.

Quote by lexanirider78
You have balls. I like balls....(awkward silence)

Quote by SeveralSpecies
I waited for the rape.

...


...but the rape never came
WCPhils
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Join date: Sep 2010
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#18
Quote by willT08
Well I'm not sure being anti-death penalty is as difficult a position to argue as anti-gay marriage or anti-woman's suffrage

oops, I meant that as being for the death penalty.

But yea, none of them are hard. Most people are stupid and/or don't even try.


Kind of felt bad with the anti gay marriage one though. I thought me and a few others in my group were actually convincing the other side at points :/
___

Quote by The_Blode
she was saying things like... do you want to netflix and chill but just the chill part...too bad she'll never know that I only like the Netflix part...
Last edited by WCPhils at Mar 18, 2013,
Holy Katana
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Join date: Apr 2005
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#19
April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
Winter kept us warm, covering
Earth in forgetful snow, feeding
A little life with dried tubers.
Summer surprised us, coming over the Starnbergersee
With a shower of rain; we stopped in the colonnade,
And went on in sunlight, into the Hofgarten,
And drank coffee, and talked for an hour.
Bin gar kine Russin, stamm' aus Litauen, echt deutsch.
And when we were children, staying at the archduke's,
My cousin's, he took me out on a sled,
And I was frightened. He said, Marie,
Marie, hold on tight. And down we went.
In the mountains, there you feel free.
I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.

What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
Out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,
You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,
And the dry stone no sound of water. Only
There is shadow under this red rock,
(Come in under the shadow of this red rock),
And I will show you something different from either
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
Frisch weht der Wind
Der Heimat zu,
Mein Irisch Kind,
Wo weilest du?
"You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
"They called me the hyacinth girl."
–Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
Looking into the heart of light, the silence.
Oed' und leer das Meer.

Madame Sosostris, famous clairvoyante,
Had a bad cold, nevertheless
Is known to be the wisest woman in Europe,
With a wicked pack of cards. Here, said she,
Is your card, the drowned Phoenician Sailor,
(Those are pearls that were his eyes. Look!)
Here is Belladonna, the Lady of the Rocks,
The lady of situations.
Here is the man with three staves, and here the Wheel,
And here is the one-eyed merchant, and this card
Which is blank, is something he carries on his back,
Which I am forbidden to see. I do not find
The Hanged Man. Fear death by water.
I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
Thank you. If you see dear Mrs. Equitone,
Tell her I bring the horoscope myself:
One must be so careful these days.

Unreal City,
Under the brown fog of a winter dawn,
A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many,
I had not thought death had undone so many.
Sighs, short and infrequent, were exhaled,
And each man fixed his eyes before his feet.
Flowed up the hill and down King William Street,
To where Saint Mary Woolnoth kept the hours
With a dead sound on the final stroke of nine.
There I saw one I knew, and stopped him, crying: "Stetson!
You who were with me in the ships at Mylae!
That corpse you planted last year in your garden,
Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year?
Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed?
Oh keep the Dog far hence, that's friend to men,
Or with his nails he'll dig it up again!
You! hypocrite lecteur!—mon semblable—mon frère!"
AeroRocker
I'm too old for this ****
Join date: Oct 2007
1,019 IQ
#20
Because if you let women vote then who's next? The blacks?

Hell no.
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LET'S GO BUCKS
Skullivan
EG Fan aka Bandwagoner
Join date: Jun 2010
1,556 IQ
#23
Tell them that we need to see women suffer more in order to curb your BDSM craving. And that without it you'll start typing in stanzas.
Godsmack_IV
taking out the trash
Join date: Jan 2007
447 IQ
#24
Women were generally unemployed by then so all of a sudden you have a bunch of welfare queens showing up to the polls. Communism is ultimately inevitable; democracy and freedom are long gone.
tortilla
Registered User
Join date: Jan 2011
587 IQ
#25
Quote by Holy Katana
April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.
Winter kept us warm, covering
Earth in forgetful snow, feeding
A little life with dried tubers.
Summer surprised us, coming over the Starnbergersee
With a shower of rain; we stopped in the colonnade,
And went on in sunlight, into the Hofgarten,
And drank coffee, and talked for an hour.
Bin gar kine Russin, stamm' aus Litauen, echt deutsch.
And when we were children, staying at the archduke's,
My cousin's, he took me out on a sled,
And I was frightened. He said, Marie,
Marie, hold on tight. And down we went.
In the mountains, there you feel free.
I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter.

What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
Out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,
You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,
And the dry stone no sound of water. Only
There is shadow under this red rock,
(Come in under the shadow of this red rock),
And I will show you something different from either
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
Frisch weht der Wind
Der Heimat zu,
Mein Irisch Kind,
Wo weilest du?
"You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
"They called me the hyacinth girl."
–Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
Looking into the heart of light, the silence.
Oed' und leer das Meer.

Madame Sosostris, famous clairvoyante,
Had a bad cold, nevertheless
Is known to be the wisest woman in Europe,
With a wicked pack of cards. Here, said she,
Is your card, the drowned Phoenician Sailor,
(Those are pearls that were his eyes. Look!)
Here is Belladonna, the Lady of the Rocks,
The lady of situations.
Here is the man with three staves, and here the Wheel,
And here is the one-eyed merchant, and this card
Which is blank, is something he carries on his back,
Which I am forbidden to see. I do not find
The Hanged Man. Fear death by water.
I see crowds of people, walking round in a ring.
Thank you. If you see dear Mrs. Equitone,
Tell her I bring the horoscope myself:
One must be so careful these days.

Unreal City,
Under the brown fog of a winter dawn,
A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many,
I had not thought death had undone so many.
Sighs, short and infrequent, were exhaled,
And each man fixed his eyes before his feet.
Flowed up the hill and down King William Street,
To where Saint Mary Woolnoth kept the hours
With a dead sound on the final stroke of nine.
There I saw one I knew, and stopped him, crying: "Stetson!
You who were with me in the ships at Mylae!
That corpse you planted last year in your garden,
Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year?
Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed?
Oh keep the Dog far hence, that's friend to men,
Or with his nails he'll dig it up again!
You! hypocrite lecteur!—mon semblable—mon frère!"

Infatuation, sadism, lust, avarice
possess our souls and drain the body's force;
we spoonfeed our adorable remorse,
like whores or beggars nourishing their lice.

Our sins are mulish, our confessions lies;
we play to the grandstand with our promises,
we pray for tears to wash our filthiness;
importantly pissing hogwash through our sties.

The devil, watching by our sickbeds, hissed
old smut and folk-songs to our soul, until
the soft and precious metal of our will
boiled off in vapor for this scientist.

Each day his flattery makes us eat a toad,
and each step forward is a step to hell,
unmoved, through previous corpses and their smell
asphyxiate our progress on this road.

Like the poor lush who cannot satisfy,
we try to force our sex with counterfeits,
die drooling on the deliquescent tits,
mouthing the rotten orange we suck dry.

Gangs of demons are boozing in our brain —
ranked, swarming, like a million warrior-ants,
they drown and choke the cistern of our wants;
each time we breathe, we tear our lungs with pain.

If poison, arson, sex, narcotics, knives
have not yet ruined us and stitched their quick,
loud patterns on the canvas of our lives,
it is because our souls are still too sick.

Among the vermin, jackals, panthers, lice,
gorillas and tarantulas that suck
and snatch and scratch and defecate and fuck
in the disorderly circus of our vice,

there's one more ugly and abortive birth.
It makes no gestures, never beats its breast,
yet it would murder for a moment's rest,
and willingly annihilate the earth.

It's BOREDOM. Tears have glued its eyes together.
You know it well, my Reader. This obscene
beast chain-smokes yawning for the guillotine —
you — hypocrite Reader — my double — my brother!
Whenever the Will to Power, in no matter what form, begins to decline, a physiological retrogression, decadence always supervenes.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
Last edited by tortilla at Mar 19, 2013,
StewieSwan
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#26
Quote by bradulator



You must be a woman
666atheist666
ErikLensherr
MGTOW
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#27
Voting changes nothing so you're just feeding the delusion to a greater segment of the population.
Quote by EpiExplorer
I swear this guy in particular writes for the telegraph or some shit.

Quote by Rossenrot
I was in NYC for all of about 5 minutes until I was called a cracker and called out to fight someone.
guitarist5477
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2013
998 IQ
#28
Teachers are still doing this? Pointless to argue, but I guess they want you to be the devils advocate on this one. Just look on the internet of the dumb arguments opposers to womans suffrage used to say back then.
A bassist is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.

The Pit operates under a pseudo-Murphy’s Law state of mind. You can make a comment and "whatever wrong assumption that can be made about it, will be made about it."
Godsmack_IV
taking out the trash
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447 IQ
#29
Don't forget to mention that women have periods and they could get bleed on the ballot and that's just gross.
Cianyx
UG Nerd
Join date: Dec 2008
1,216 IQ
#31
point out that human rights is a social construct
then bring up the bible
disenfranchisement 101
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tortilla
Registered User
Join date: Jan 2011
587 IQ
#33
Quote by █▐▌█▐▌
Eww, Baudelaire sure is
ugly without the French
and in sans serif font.

I am aware, however,
if I simply posted it in
French I would have had
to included an English
translation; as dictated
by The Pit's rules.
Whenever the Will to Power, in no matter what form, begins to decline, a physiological retrogression, decadence always supervenes.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
ErikLensherr
MGTOW
Join date: Jul 2011
1,634 IQ
#35
Women don't enlist in the military as much as men so they have a lesser stake in preserving our freedoms.
Quote by EpiExplorer
I swear this guy in particular writes for the telegraph or some shit.

Quote by Rossenrot
I was in NYC for all of about 5 minutes until I was called a cracker and called out to fight someone.
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Join date: Apr 2011
1,459 IQ
#36
Quote by tortilla
I am aware, however,
if I simply posted it in
French I would have had
to included an English
translation; as dictated
by The Pit's rules.

The mods don't care, I've
been posting in French
lately. It's OK though,
it's still better than Eliot.
badfish_lewis
Tab Contributor
Join date: Jan 2012
1,952 IQ
#38
Remember when you'd get home from a hard day at the office and your wife would be dressed up, have a cold beer ready for you and a home cooked dinner on the table? She'd quietly sit there and knit after doing the dishes and giving you a sponge bath. Not a peep would be heard from her unless you asked her a question, which was rare. Ya remember that? No of course you don't, women's rights have destroyed the American family dynamic.

Now you come home and the first thing you'll hear is some bitching from her about how you didn't do (insert ridiculous task here) correctly and how she didn't have time to clean the house or do your laundry because she had such a hard day...at the gym or book club or some other faux activity. Then she'll go on for another 10 minutes about how you need to cook dinner and how she'd love to help but she has a "migraine" and also you're not going to have sex, not so much for that reason (migraine) but because she hasn't taken the time in the last 6-8 months to shave her legs (or anywhere else) because her communist coworkers have convinced her that shaving is a misogynistic practice encouraged by troglodite males. So instead of enjoying that cold beer and putting your feet up you silently contemplate how many more days you can coexist with this witch before you blow your head off with your grandpappy's Winchester
Good Ol' Ramos
UG Newbie
Join date: Aug 2008
118 IQ
#39
Women in education, specifically science. I've been making it a point throughout my studies to read up on some of the important women who have made great contributions to our knowledge. In the 1920s, many women were discouraged (euphemism) by men from pursuing educations, believing that it simply was not their place.

Rosalind Franklin was born in 1920... perfect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalind_Franklin
Good Ol' Ramos
UG Newbie
Join date: Aug 2008
118 IQ
#40
Quote by Godsmack_IV
Also women have smaller brains than men so you can't expect them to vote intelligently.


Science saves the day again.

Quote by Cianyx
point out that human rights is a social construct
then bring up the bible
disenfranchisement 101


God saves the day again.

Quote by Godsmack_IV
Don't forget to mention that women have periods and they could get bleed on the ballot and that's just gross.


My friend used to say "We can never have a woman president. She'll get her period and we'll lose the war." Funy story, he now spends his days in a maximum security state prison.