Poll: Privacy or information?
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Freedom of Information
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Gibson_SG_uzr55
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#1
What do you think of those websites that can give you a background check on any random person as you wish? Do you have a right to the information? Or the right to privacy?
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#2
I have never heard of such a thing and have a hard time imagining something like this exists to the general public.
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#3
right to privacy!? you've created a Time Paradox!
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#4
Once you get caught doing something that gets put on a record, it's out of your hands and you lost your 'right to privacy'.
That said, I'm not sure how legal it is to post that for the general public to view.
Gibson_SG_uzr55
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#5
I don't know about non-American countries, but there are even commercials advertising them. You can google them if you've never heard of one
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stonyman65
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#7
From what I understand, all those sites do is scan for any criminal checks or something like that. It doesn't give out all of your information or anything like that.

Either way, you can find out all of that stuff pretty easily if you know where to look, it's just a matter of if you want to take the time to look.

Do I think it's an invasion of privacy? Not really because it is all public knowledge.

As long as you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.
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#8
If you want dirt on someone, why not just pay to see their Facebook?
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#11
Against them. Coincidentally, on Tuesday I'm doing a speech on why sex offender registries should be abolished.
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#12
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Against them. Coincidentally, on Tuesday I'm doing a speech on why sex offender registries should be abolished.


Why in the world would you want to do that?
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#13
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Why in the world would you want to do that?



Because it's an ineffective, immoral, knee-jerk reaction.
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#14
Quote by Gibson_SG_uzr55
I don't know about non-American countries, but there are even commercials advertising them. You can google them if you've never heard of one

Yeah, but it's actually not very above board for those sites to operate the US either. I'm not sure it's actually illegal, but they could get sued for all kinds of stuff. Invasion of privacy is not something us Americans seem to take lightly.


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#15
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From what I understand, all those sites do is scan for any criminal checks or something like that. It doesn't give out all of your information or anything like that.

While we're at it, we can discuss those people finder sites
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#16
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Why in the world would you want to do that?


there are 1000 problems with sex offender registries.
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#17
The problem with background information and history I have is purely practical. Most people are incredibly prejudiced and will judge a person on his history rather than give him the opportunity to show what he constitutes in the present, people do change, but that doesn't help a person who perhaps turned his life around if everyone judges him based on his past mistakes.
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#18
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there are 1000 problems with sex offender registries.

Of course you'd say that.
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#19
Sex offenders you say?

inb4 Skyler and sex offense apologizing
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#20
Quote by StewieSwan
Because it's an ineffective, immoral, knee-jerk reaction.


What would you propose instead?


I work with children and have an in-depth criminal record check completed on me every year as a condition of the role. I can't imagine any kind of system where people working with children weren't extensively vetted first.
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#21
I'm interested in hearing your sex offender argument Stewie
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#22
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What would you propose instead?


I work with children and have an in-depth criminal record check completed on me every year as a condition of the role. I can't imagine any kind of system where people working with children weren't extensively vetted first.



Criminal records should be open to institutions like schools for that reason. But for the general public? Hell no. Registries are perpetual punishment.
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#23
Quote by StewieSwan
Criminal records should be open to institutions like schools for that reason. But for the general public? Hell no. Registries are perpetual punishment.


Good. If they did something THAT bad that they are on a registry somewhere (especially a sex-offender registry) then they deserve everything that follows them.

They shouldn't have got their names on that list to begin with by, you know, doing that illegal thing in the first place.
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#24
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Good. If they did something THAT bad that they are on a registry somewhere (especially a sex-offender registry) then they deserve everything that follows them.

They shouldn't have got their names on that list to begin with by, you know, doing that illegal thing in the first place.


There have been drunk people that moon their mates down the pub. They get on the sex offender's register for life, along with serial rapists and child molesters.

Does that sound reasonable, effective and responsible to you?
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#25
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#26
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There have been drunk people that moon their mates down the pub. They get on the sex offender's register for life, along with serial rapists and child molesters.

Does that sound reasonable, effective and responsible to you?


That's a problem with the criteria to get on the list, not the list itself.
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#27
Quote by stonyman65
Good. If they did something THAT bad that they are on a registry somewhere (especially a sex-offender registry) then they deserve everything that follows them.

They shouldn't have got their names on that list to begin with by, you know, doing that illegal thing in the first place.



Because once a criminal, always a criminal, right?
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#28
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Because once a criminal, always a criminal, right?


When talking about sex-offenders and murderers? Yes.
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#29
Sex offenders registries and criminal records shouldn't just be publicly accessible.

All it does is encourage people ignorant of the law and circumstances to get all vigilante about it. There's a reason we have a justice system to handle these things.

They serve their time and are let out when not judged a threat to the public. It is none of your business, nor is there any need for you to know, unless you are considering them for a job with vulnerable people or you are one of these law officials.
Anyone else having access to is just needless trouble.
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#30
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When talking about sex-offenders and murderers? Yes.



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#31
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When talking about sex-offenders and murderers? Yes.

Unless you're joking, I question your logic.
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#32
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When talking about sex-offenders and murderers? Yes.

thats really stupid
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#33
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Unless you're joking, I question your logic.



There is no logic to an opinion like that. It's purely based on a knee-jerk, emotional reaction.
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#34
Quote by StewieSwan
There is no logic to an opinion like that. It's purely based on a knee-jerk, emotional reaction.


Knee-jerk reaction?

Why, because they raped someone, or because they killed someone unjustly?

So that's okay with you? What would you suggest?
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This is terrible advice. Even worse than the useless dry, sarcastic comment I made.

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#35
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i agree with stewie on all accounts here. the evidence suggests (i will find it if necessary) that rehabilitation is totally possible for pedophiles. other sex offenders, i don't know of the specific evidence but i'm confident that it exists somewhere.
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#36
Those sites don't work it Canada. There's plenty of them, but you have to pay and it just tells you basic shit you could find out on google and the phonebook.

Yeah. So our privacy rights actually do something apparently.
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#37
They only provide information on public record. They also charge you to access said information.
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#38
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So that's okay with you?



I don't even know what to say to such a stupid question.


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i agree with stewie on all accounts here. the evidence suggests (i will find it if necessary) that rehabilitation is totally possible for pedophiles. other sex offenders, i don't know of the specific evidence but i'm confident that it exists somewhere.



The recidivism rate for sex offenders in the first three years after release is a mere 5.3 percent.
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stonyman65
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#39
Quote by StewieSwan
I don't even know what to say to such a stupid question.


Way to dodge the other question.

What else would you suggest?
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This is terrible advice. Even worse than the useless dry, sarcastic comment I made.

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#40
Quote by stonyman65
Way to dodge the other question.

What else would you suggest?



I'm not dodging a question. I think it's fucking retarded that you think the choice is either

A) Jailed and registered for everyone to see forever
B) FREE TO GO HERP DERP MURDER IS A-OK
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