#1
So, i bought and amp, Jet City JCA50 to be exact, and it doesn't have a reverb. I dont mind, since it has a killer higain tone that i really like, and since we play like that most of the time, i figured it doesnt really matter, ill just use my zoom G3 for the ocasional reverb in clean tones.

Well, turns out that it sucks, so now i need a few actual pedals. Im gonna put an overdrive in front of the amp for leads and now i need to figure out if i need a reverb or a delay to put in the effects loop.

I would use it mainly for cleans, so im guessing a reverb pedal would be better for that. But what about for leads? Is reverb just as good as delay for solos, or not? Would a delay pedal be equaly useful for cleans as well as for high gain leads? We dont really have any clean solos, so thats not an issue. And what are some good bargain delay and reverb pedals? I dont really want to get a rack unit since they are to pricy for me, and i dont wanna lug around a rack with one unit in it.

Thanks!
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#2
Get both! Both are very versatile effects and well worth having. I couldnt choose between them, theyre both great
#3
http://www.guitarampboard.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1615

check out that link there- the loop in the jet city is slightly weird so not all pedals work in it. I don't think that link is exhaustive, but it's better than nothing.

fwiw i'd probably prefer reverb for cleans but delay for high gain solos.
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#4
Yeah, i found out about the wonky loop after i tried to put an overdrive in it. It seemed like my amp was dying... Anyway, im not sure i have the money for both effects, so wich one would come in better? Its a tough one since i have at least a small lead or clean part in almost every song.
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#5
I'd go for the delay, some of them can do a decent slapback type reverb, unless you really need a good reverb sound
#6
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Yeah, i found out about the wonky loop after i tried to put an overdrive in it. It seemed like my amp was dying... Anyway, im not sure i have the money for both effects, so wich one would come in better? Its a tough one since i have at least a small lead or clean part in almost every song.


Wait, you put an overdrive in the effect loop?
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#7
I'd get delay first. If it's a nice pedal you can set it up to kinda do the same job as a reverb. If you set the delay time to be really fast, the volume knob low and the feedback control to taste it would thicken up your cleans nicely. It's not a reverb effect outright, but it's also not a bad compromise until you get one.

If your delay pedal of choice can store presets, you could have one for cleans and one for leads.
#8
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Wait, you put an overdrive in the effect loop?


yeah you shouldn't really put od in the loop

regarding delay versus reverb, i guess it's just a matter of looking up specs etc.- if you don't need too complex delays, some reverb pedals (I think ) have basic delay settings (and the reverse may be true for some delay pedals regarding basic reverb).
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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#9
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Wait, you put an overdrive in the effect loop?


I wanted to use it as a clean boost or whatever... Don't mock me, this is my first tube amp
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#10
ah right yeah that might work ok if you're careful (and the loop was a sensible design)
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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#11
I'd go with delay. I think a delay can do reverb better than reverb can do delay.

If you do go with reverb, check out the ehx holy grail, it has "flerb" so you get a bonus light duty flanger.

Btw, I agree with you on the g3 sounding like ass through an amp. Its a great practice tool and headphone amp but even cheap pedals sound so much better through an amp.
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#12
Get both, use them separate and together, lots of options. I always have one of them on.

If you can only afford one, get the delay. Like others said you can pull off some reverb sounds from a delay pedal but not the other way around. I highly recommend the carbon copy, I like its modulation button and you can get some slap back reverb sounds
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#14
Another vote here for reverb. It's the kind of pedal you can can leave on the whole set.
#15
For cleans, reverb makes it sound nice and full. Buuuuuuut, I LOVE messing around with delay pedals. Not only do they bring life to lead tones, but you can also get really creative with different settings!
#16
I usually use a bit of both, but I never play clean without reverb and I usually always use delay with distortion. I find delay to work better in higher gain situations.
#17
I would get both. You might find that putting delay on the clean parts would really help to add some lush ambience for certain songs, on the other hand, a bit of reverb might be all the lead tone needs sometimes. It's good to have options.
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#18
I guess I'm in the minority here, but if you have to pick one I'd pick the reverb. Delay can be set to be decent for cleans, but do you plan on going back and forth on the setting everytime you switch from lead to cleans? Reverb is perfect for cleans, and it works pretty good for leads. It sounds pretty good for leads, it's just kinda too subtle. With the delay, you have to compromise more than you have to compromise with the reverb.
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#20
IIRC those things have a line level loop so be careful what you put in there, most pedals will distort in the loop. Maybe look for an old Alesis Quadraverb; they love line level and you'll get both reverb and delay (and quite good ones). You see them on ebay really cheap these days. You can switch them with keyboards sustain pedals - also cheap.
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#21
I prefer delay, but sometimes the room your playing in is just truely awful and you need that verb to comphensate for it. So how are your surroundings? If its not a great sounding space get the verb, if its passable get the delay.
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#22
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IIRC those things have a line level loop so be careful what you put in there, most pedals will distort in the loop. Maybe look for an old Alesis Quadraverb; they love line level and you'll get both reverb and delay (and quite good ones). You see them on ebay really cheap these days. You can switch them with keyboards sustain pedals - also cheap.

this. very few pedals have the headroom for line level (+4dbu); they only want instrument level (-10dbv). line level is for racks. the only companies i know off the top of my head that give their pedals enough headroom to accept line level are empress, eventide, and strymon. also the boss twin pedals like the dd-20 and eq-20 are switchable between instrument and line level. but make sure you check the website/manuals first.