#1
Hi, Just wanted some opinions on these guitars i have listed. I am a beginner and am just looking to get the most for my money.
Any of these brands that i should lean towards\Stay away from at this price range?

prices are in Pounds and USD (postage price included)

1 Fender Paramount PM-3 Triple O All Mahogany £426 $548
2 Taylor BBTe Big Baby Taylor Electro £548 $705
3 Taylor Academy Series 12e Grand Concert £477 $613
4 Taylor Academy Series 10 Dreadnought £410 $527
5 Taylor Academy Series 10 Dreadnought electric £477 $613
6 Fender Paramount pm1 all mahogany £470 $604
7 Fender Paramount PM1 £520 $669
8 Washburn HJ40SCE Jumbo Cutaway Acoustic £462 $594
9 Washburn HG26SCE Cutaway Grand Auditorium £478 $615
10 Yamaha LL6M Electro £437 $562
11 Epiphone Masterbilt AJ-500RCE Sunburst £480 $617
12 Epiphone Masterbilt AJ-500RCE Satin £480 $617

Guitar links-
1 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/0960298221/electro-acoustic-guitars/fender-paramount-pm-3-triple-o-all-mahogany
2 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/BBTE/electro-acoustic-guitars/taylor-bbte-big-baby-taylor-electro-acoustic-guitar
3 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/A12e/electro-acoustic-guitars/taylor-academy-series-12e-grand-concert
4 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/A10/steel-string-acoustic-guitars/taylor-academy-series-10-dreadnought
5 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/A10e/electro-acoustic-guitars/taylor-academy-series-10e-dreadnought
6 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/0960297221/steel-string-acoustic-guitars/fender-paramount-pm-1-standard-dreadnought-ne-all-mahogany
7 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/0960250221/electro-acoustic-guitars/fender-paramount-pm1-dreadnought-standard-natural
8 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/WAS1007/electro-acoustic-guitars/washburn-hj40sce-jumbo-cutaway-acoustic
9 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/WAS1003/electro-acoustic-guitars/washburn-hg26sce-cutaway-grand-auditorium-w-solid-cedar-top
10 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/LL6MARE/electro-acoustic-guitars/yamaha-ll6m-electro-acoustic-in-natural
11 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/EEMAVSSNH3/steel-string-acoustic-guitars/epiphone-masterbilt-aj-500rce-acoustic-guitar-in-vintage-sunburst
12 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/EEMANASNH3/electro-acoustic-guitars/epiphone-masterbilt-aj-500rce-acoustic-guitar-in-natural-satin
#2
I'm much more an electric player than an acoustic player, but I really didn't much like the paramount I tried- felt like all style and no substance. You can get furch/stonebridge guitars which are all solid (but with a satin finish) which are a lot nicer for not much more money (starting around £600, unless prices have gone up since i last looked).

but wait until the acoustic specialists turn up in case they know something i don't.
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#3
Well Change of plans, I forgot about that rosewood ban so i cannot have anything with rosewood shipped from overseas..So now im pretty limited.
#5
hellomyfrend  You have several body sizes listed, and the sonic differences between them, can as be as significant as the brand. That said, I wouldn't go for anything with maple B & S, smaller than a jumbo.

The Taylor models have bolt on necks, and so are more easily repaired, should a neck rest be required. Big plus. Most Taylor models are pretty forward, in your face sounding instruments. That's always a huge argument between the Martin (more laid back), and Taylor camps. I will say due to the length of time they've been around, the Martin sound has been more often copied.

Epiphone is a subsidiary of Gibson, and as such, depending on which Gibson body style the Masterbilt model is copying, (I'm talking in terms of the "J" series, or as commonly called, "slope dreadnoughts") are certainly worth a listen. Quite a few country artists gravitate towards both the style and sound of Gibson guitars, very often the "J-200 Super Jumbo".  The Epiphone EJ-200 mostly copies that guitar, but as it's not in their Masterbilt line, the maple B & S are laminated.
Last edited by Captaincranky at May 17, 2017,
#8
Depends on how much money you have to spend. Taylor's guitars, on that list, far exceed the quality of the others. I've never heard of the Taylor "Academy" series, wondering if that's a "rename" of the Taylor 114. 

Do yourself a favor and avoid Fender acoustics. 
#9
Thanks everyone, i have decided to go with one of the taylors as alot of the other guitars contain rosewood which i cant import. And i do like the sound of it. Will be purchasing next week
#10
TobusRex The "Academy" series is new, and is priced in keeping with, or perhaps slightly under, the 1xx series, which it could eventually replace. (That's speculation on my part). In any event, it's a feature and facelift of the 100's, complete with an armrest. (The materials and varnish finish are the same though). I'll save you the search: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Acad10 I didn't check the whole line, but the linked guitar goes for a nickel, no electronics. The 110e now goes out at six, with. 

Damn you Donald Trump, better not f**k with our Mexi-Taylors.   You know something's gonna break, if they have to be thrown over a thirty foot wall.
Last edited by Captaincranky at May 13, 2017,
#11
Quote by hellomyfrend
Thanks everyone, i have decided to go with one of the taylors as alot of the other guitars contain rosewood which i cant import. And i do like the sound of it. Will be purchasing next week

You can't import Indian rosewood? I didn't think that was a CITES issue. The Indian variety is the replacement for the, "you can't ship this no where, no how", Brazilian variety. I believe you can't export rosewood from India without any machining done on it by Indian workers, but that's a jobs staying in India issue.

Some more reading on the topic of rosewoods:  http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/distinguishing-brazilian-rosewood-from-east-indian-and-other-rosewoods/   I'm not trying to change your mind, just expanding the discussion a bit.

We do hope you'll let us know when it arrives, by starting a "new guitar day" thread.
Last edited by Captaincranky at May 13, 2017,
#12
Here is a direct copy paste from andertons website-
All Rosewood
Granadillo
African Blackwood
Cocobolo
Kingwood
Bubinga
Any other member of the Dalbergia family of woods
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Im not too familiar with the ban, im just going off what i have read on the andertons website
#13
Quote by hellomyfrend     Any other member of the Dalbergia family of woods
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Im not too familiar with the ban, im just going off what i have read on the andertons website

Mystery solved. There is a newly expanded CITES ban on the trafficking of any Dalbergia species, which went into effect January 2, 2017. It basically duplicates the Anderton's statement verbatim. This is a huge genus of trees and shrubs, something in excess of 300 species.

This article from "Reverb.com" sums it up: https://reverb.com/news/new-cites-regulations-for-all-rosewood-species

Prior to these new regs, East Indian Rosewood was exempt from CITES. I suppose, (arguably) the Indian government could have been compliiicit in the destruction of a species. This takes the issue out of their hands.
#14
I'm a yamaha guy myself. IMO nobody does budget or mid level acoustics better than yamaha. 
#17
Im fairly sure the majority of the others i had listed contain rosewood, so they arent an option anyway
#18
Quote by hotrodney71
Don't all these guitars have rosewood fretboards?

Taylor only uses ebony...The following video explains it thoroughly:



Please follow the link I posted in #13 to reverb.com as it explains the new CITEs regulation and what "grandfather" provisions are provided.
Last edited by Captaincranky at May 16, 2017,
#19
In my opinion, Yamaha guitars are great for beginners. The Taylors are a good idea two, the sound out of those are typically good with rhythm guitar, but I don't know about the washburns, just because I haven't heard much about them.
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