#1
the screamer seemed to suck my low end out, is that why some ppl prefer the maxon more?
#2
the low end cut is part of what a tubescreamer to function as a boost.
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the low end cut is part of what a tubescreamer to function as a boost.
hey whats up bro, been awhile, so does the maxon not do that though? I understand the plus of being able to cut through, but does the maxon ditch less low end?
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hey whats up bro, been awhile, so does the maxon not do that though? I understand the plus of being able to cut through, but does the maxon ditch less low end?




I don't know, lol. the ts9, ts10 (maxon od808) are arr almost identical. just three or four different values.

look for a Ibanez bottom booster its pretty similar to the whole ts type thing. for me it has more girth than a ts.

or you could get a timmy or a flat boost.
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I don't know, lol. the ts9, ts10 (maxon od808) are arr almost identical. just three or four different values.

look for a Ibanez bottom booster its pretty similar to the whole ts type thing. for me it has more girth than a ts.

or you could get a timmy or a flat boost.

Interesting indeed 
#6
yeah low end cut is a characteristic of the tubescreamer... it makes it excellent for some things, but less good for other things.
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#7
I agree with trashedlostfdup the TS9, TS10 and OD808 are all pretty close Maxon used to make the tubescreamers for Ibanez back in the day I have an early 80's TS9 that is built by Maxon.
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#8
Maxon was the original maker of Ibanez TS. They are now touted as a higher end version but are pretty much the same thing.
#10
SUDJIAN Essentially.

If you want a tube screamer-ish sound in the sense that you're adding sustain and mids but the ability to keep your lows or add more, I'd pick the green rhino. The MKIV lets you dial all 3 EQ ranges, while the MKII does bass and treble with a 3rd (quite subtle, yet useful) knob for how smooth it sounds.
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Yeah but the big ques here is does the maxon cut the lows as bad.....


Omfg wtfbbq. It's the same damn pedal.
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#12
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Omfg wtfbbq. It's the same damn pedal.


Dont yell at me ill tell mom.

Ppl prefer one to the other so i still just find it hard to believe. Must be a reason.
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Dont yell at me ill tell mom.

Ppl prefer one to the other so i still just find it hard to believe. Must be a reason.


More about perceived quality of pedal than the sound. There may be some very minor differences in terms of sound but again very minor. If you want the benefits of a tubescreamer without the potential downside then get a TS style pedal with a bass control.

you've been told this before please listen this time
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More about perceived quality of pedal than the sound. There may be some very minor differences in terms of sound but again very minor. If you want the benefits of a tubescreamer without the potential downside then get a TS style pedal with a bass control.

you've been told this before please listen this time
no need for attitude.

I may ask several times because i might no be convinced until i get a few dif opinions. Ppl think they are right all the time and i used to believe everything from guitar guys then you end up totaly wrong.
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for the record i've never been wrong.
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for the record i've never been wrong.
lol ok good to know lol.
#17
Chiming in as well: the Mason & ibanez tube screamers are virtually indistinguishable in terms of tone. If you want more bass, you need to find one of the TS clones that gives you more tonal control. The Green Rhino is one. Personally, I really like the Jekyll & Hyde V2 or V3 by Visual Sound or TrueTone*.


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no need for attitude.

I may ask several times because i might no be convinced until i get a few dif opinions. Ppl think they are right all the time and i used to believe everything from guitar guys then you end up totaly wrong.


As you see there is no "other" opinion we are all saying the same thing. Don't know who you talked to before but the advice found on this board is usually spot on. If something incorrect is said it almost always gets corrected. People will have varying opinions on what's "best" however factual info won't change.
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Chiming in as well: the Mason & ibanez tube screamers are virtually indistinguishable in terms of tone. If you want more bass, you need to find one of the TS clones that gives you more tonal control. The Green Rhino is one. Personally, I really like the Jekyll & Hyde V2 or V3 by Visual Sound or TrueTone*.


* same company, different name.


worth pointing out though- on the route 808 I have (and I assume the dual pedals are the same), the extra bass is only on a switch, so you only have two settings- stock tubescreamer (bass cut) and a lot more bass. I find it kind of useless as the extra bass is way too much. A knob would be much more useful IMO.

(Don't get me wrong, it's a very nice pedal apart from that, but I just find the bass knob kind of pointless- there are better pedals to look at if your main beef with the tubescreamer design is too much bass cut.)

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Ppl prefer one to the other so i still just find it hard to believe. Must be a reason.


well, as you implied yourself in a later post, guitarists say a lot of things. you're sort of believing the people who say there's a big difference and not believing we who say there isn't.

i mean, guitarists always seem to want to think they've found the holy grail and that everyone who uses something else is silly.

fwiw i think the maxon is true bypass while the ibanez is buffered.
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As you see there is no "other" opinion we are all saying the same thing. Don't know who you talked to before but the advice found on this board is usually spot on. If something incorrect is said it almost always gets corrected. People will have varying opinions on what's "best" however factual info won't change.

Ok ok
#25
If you wnat a TS that doesn't suck too much low end out, try some of the boost pedals Misha mansoor of Periphery uses. 
#26
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fwiw i think the maxon is true bypass while the ibanez is buffered.


Yes the TS9 is buffered even the old Maxon built versions, also some of the old Maxon built TS9s were made with different op-amp chips so they sound different.

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^ yeah sorry for the confusion there, I meant the actual maxon-branded ts9 was true bypass. as you rightly said, the ibanez-branded but maxon-built ts9s are buffered.
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#28
The louder I crank this head the more I realize I just love its natural sound.  
#29
SUDJIAN 
 
If you can get away with cranking a 6505+, it doesn't really need an OD.  You have to run your bass/resonance fairly low though; around 3-4.  In practice though, the volume where it starts sounding good without an OD is not really conducive to keeping my marriage intact. 

With an OD boost, it sounds great at any volume.  And I still like the tone a little better even when cranked to gig levels.
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SUDJIAN

If you can get away with cranking a 6505+, it doesn't really need an OD.  You have to run your bass/resonance fairly low though; around 3-4.  In practice though, the volume where it starts sounding good without an OD is not really conducive to keeping my marriage intact.

With an OD boost, it sounds great at any volume.  And I still like the tone a little better even when cranked to gig levels.

Yeah I hear yeah, except I'm single so no one to piss off, I tell the neighbors I'll keep it under an hour and they are cool. Im still gonna test a few pedals for boost, the spark mini, the maxon, and the mxr 10 band eq.  Trying to find a mesa cab right now but from GC most are pretty beat up at the 450 mark.
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SUDJIAN 
 
If you can get away with cranking a 6505+, it doesn't really need an OD.  You have to run your bass/resonance fairly low though; around 3-4.  In practice though, the volume where it starts sounding good without an OD is not really conducive to keeping my marriage intact. 

With an OD boost, it sounds great at any volume.  And I still like the tone a little better even when cranked to gig levels.
what od do u prefer
#32
I never thought that the 6505 family needed a boost really unless you were djenting. For the type of music you like, you probably would do better without one.
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#33
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I never thought that the 6505 family needed a boost really unless you were djenting.  For the type of music you like, you probably would do better without one.

Yeah I mean I play and listen to everything, i can play that shit pretty good but it gets old fast, so many bands are trying to out djent each other with this mathematical stuff that the soul is sucked out of the songs. 

May still get one for when when I wanna do that more. Your right though, that's what I felt I heard too, it makes your low end more cutty for faster one noters like that. I noticed it sounded good for when I play songs of holy wars from megadeth.