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#1
Hello everyone. I recently took on the task of writing a 6-8 page paper on a specific problem in the guitar community, along with solutions to this problem. The trouble is, I really can't narrow down a certain problem (at least not one with sources). Speaking of which, this cannot be an obscure problem - I need to have a pretty decent amount of resources to cite (and citing a forum can't count, sorry). If anything immediately comes to mind, please submit it, I'm open to any and all suggestions that can be adequately researched through online articles.
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#2
Musical elitism. The fact that so many guitarists think they're better than others just "because i can play teh br00tal shredz at 11000 beats per minute" and those that can't suck.
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#3
The misconception that the faster you are, the better you are.

......Mindless "shreding"....

Edit: Beat me to it....tool
#4
Fanboys.

People with crap gear, and because they don't have any money, and claim that anything better then they have is even more crap.
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#5
Metal and the following ignorance for other musical genres.
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#6
The amount of fake, poor quality knock offs that have started to circulate? Could easily cite a few ebay pages. I'm fairly sure there would be some information about it on the major guitar manufacturers websites.
#8
people who complain about shredding 'cause they can't
^Note: Probably sarcastic
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#9
i couldnt have said it any better than most of these people ^^^
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#10
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The misconception that the faster you are, the better you are.

......Mindless "shreding"....

Edit: Beat me to it....tool



Shredding isn't mindless if you know what you're doing. When you actually apply knowledge and theory, to come up with a colorful musical idea, it's a good thing. Listen to Eric Johnson, you'll see what I mean.
#12
You could say that, with the release of guitar hero, too many people are buying based on name-brands than quality...
If i were you though, id extend it to the music community, and then really smash the record companies and how the artist gets a fraction of his work.
If its possible... really look into that. 6-8 pages EASY.
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#13
Shredding.

"If you cant shred- you suck"

Soloing

"if your songs dont have solo's - they suck"

Gear elitists

"OMG you have a line 6 Lololololooollol"


Gisbon guitars- Over priced, and over valued.
#14
Where do I begin?

-The perception of playing music in terms of speed rather than musical qualities
-The lack of formal musical training
-The lack of acknowledgments about basic procedures in performance
-The unbalanced emphasis on guitar itself over the music as a whole
-The constant clashing of egos and attempting to make oneself feel better as a guitarist by putting other guitarists down

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#15
close mindedness about music.

"I listen to all kinds of Music" usually refers to 3 or more branches of Shred Metal and possibly 1 genre of punk. "all kinds of music" should break "rock" down into no more than 3 branches, and include jazz, or different classical periods, and even non-guitar centric music.
#17
I really like the idea of technical skill over a firm theory base. Does anyone have articles to use as reference? I'm searching google and running into a bit of trouble.

Once again, thanks for the ideas.
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She said "The numbers don't represent the moments"
Says she don't see what all the ticking's for
#18
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I really like the idea of technical skill over a firm theory base. Does anyone have articles to use as reference? I'm searching google and running into a bit of trouble.

Once again, thanks for the ideas.

It's not even an emphasis on technical skill that's the problem. The problem is that a lot of guitarists think speed is all that makes up technical skill.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#19
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It's not even an emphasis on technical skill that's the problem. The problem is that a lot of guitarists think speed is all that makes up technical skill.

That was something I figured I would imply.

Looks like it may be a lost cause, though. Any searches appear to yield sites for learning guitar rather than articles pertaining to the problems the community faces.
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#20
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Shredding isn't mindless if you know what you're doing. When you actually apply knowledge and theory, to come up with a colorful musical idea, it's a good thing. Listen to Eric Johnson, you'll see what I mean.


I'm well aware of that. That's what I'm talking about. I can appreciate TRUE shreds and talent.

I'm talking about guitarists that just tremolo pick and random higher frets as fast as they can...not applying any theory at all.....just random playing and try to pass it off as a solo.

THATS what I'm talking about.
#21
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The misconception that the faster you are, the better you are.

......Mindless "shreding"....

Edit: Beat me to it....tool


Conversely, the misconception that shred has no emotion.

People who think that need to be put down because it just isn't true.
#22
The persistent belief that guitar playing should be an olympic sport.
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Conversely, the misconception that shred has no emotion.

People who think that need to be put down because it just isn't true.

This.

Also, the legion of people around me that obsessively play Pinch Harmonics or just use their Vibrato Arm because they can't finish on a good target note.
#25
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The hell? Maybe it should be saved for the winter olympics as opposed to Summer.

Luge guitar. That has possibilities.
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#26
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Shredding isn't mindless if you know what you're doing. When you actually apply knowledge and theory, to come up with a colorful musical idea, it's a good thing. Listen to Eric Johnson, you'll see what I mean.

I think the whole concept of "shred" is terrible. It's labeling music from the perspective of speed, which leads to excess. Almost all other musical and instrumental cultures do not bear this way of thinking about music. In a fast passage of music in a classical work or a speedy lick in a jazz solo, no one is judging the music by how fast it's played. The listeners may be impressed with the speed, sure, but it's not the fact that the whole thing is based around speed, it's that the artist used a certain amount of speed to create a musical effect. Whereas in "shred", the music is based around the expectation that the player has to play fast with novelty tricks, who is then "honored" with the title of being a shredder. It's stupid.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#27
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Conversely, the misconception that shred has no emotion.

People who think that need to be put down because it just isn't true.


Dime's solos are a perfect example
#28
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Luge guitar. That has possibilities.


Screw that. Guitar Curling. Instead of brooms to melt the ice in front of the stone, one uses FACE MELTING SOLOS!

At least then men can play, cos, like, brooms are difficult.

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Dime's solos are a perfect example


Yes and no, for the reason- all music comes from emotion.
#29
Metalheads.
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#30
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I think the whole concept of "shred" is terrible. It's labeling music from the perspective of speed, which leads to excess. Almost all other musical and instrumental cultures do not bear this way of thinking about music. In a fast passage of music in a classical work or a speedy lick in a jazz solo, no one is judging the music by how fast it's played. The listeners may be impressed with the speed, sure, but it's not the fact that the whole thing is based around speed, it's that the artist used a certain amount of speed to create a musical effect. Whereas in "shred", the music is based around the expectation that the player has to play fast with novelty tricks, who is then "honored" with the title of being a shredder. It's stupid.


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#32
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Shred is a style of playing guitar.

A musical style would be bossa nova, or drum and bass, or Romantic, or bebop.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#34
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guitar becoming more abt extravagance and shreds and not abt music!


Becoming? I completely missed the 70's and 80's and still know extravagance existed more then than it does now. I think the main problem here is the inability to use vowels.
#35
Solos are what make up a song...a big F to all those ppl...

And those who said shreding sucks and has no emotion, sit down and learn from John Petrucci you numbskulls...
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#36
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Solos are what make up a song...a big F to all those ppl...

And those who said shreding sucks and has no emotion, sit down and learn from John Petrucci you numbskulls...

I've sat down and learned from John Petrucci long enough to write my wall of text.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#37
People who bitch about shredding and think pentatonic scale + epic bends + playing slow + hilarious faces = emotion.
#38
like everyone has said, hate for other's music and the misconception that "The faster, the better"
#39
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The hell? Maybe it should be saved for the winter olympics as opposed to Summer.



*Queue scandinavian metal bands*
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#40
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Becoming? I completely missed the 70's and 80's and still know extravagance existed more then than it does now. I think the main problem here is the inability to use vowels.

That wasn't extravagance. That was spandex.
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