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#1
Whats your opinion on Stemcell Research?

Im all for it, It means people dont have to take anti-rejection drugs after transplants.

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#2
Perhaps a Poll would help?

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I support Stemmcell Research by the way.
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#4
I'm kind of undecided to be honest. It's good that it saves lifes and can find cures to diseases etc. but being brought up a christian I kind of feel that it isn't right to kill a potential human being, tough one.

I think the need to save lifes can justify the means done though even if it is very unethical.
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Yes.
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I support abortion and homosexuality.
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#13
yes. i see no problem with it whatsoever
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Stem cell research = all kinds of win. Not just because it could lead to large reductions in waiting times for transplants, but also because it offers the best chance for me to actually breed an army of obedient man-panzees.
#17
I'm all for it.
Plus, there has been quite a bit of progress in inducing non-embryonic cells to act like stem cells, which lessens the controversy.
#18
Yay lol
My class learned about this in biology. The only problems with it are the 'moral issues' or whatever. I don't get why a few balls of cells lives are seen as by some people to be more important than millions of people who could be saved from dying tbh.

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My class learned about this in biology. The only problems with it are the 'moral issues' or whatever. I don't get why a few balls of cells lives are seen as by some people to be more important than millions of people who could be saved from dying tbh.


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Right on.

And I say, yes.

I don't get why they don't allow the research of stem cells in the US. Abortion is legal, but the Christians whine about it. So they won't allow potential lives to be saved by using the stem cells? That part is just too evil for them I guess... It could save more lives then one unwanted fetus. And if the fetus is aborted anyway, why not use the f*cking stem cells? I don't see the logic. Either sh*t or get of the pot.
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I'm kind of undecided to be honest. It's good that it saves lifes and can find cures to diseases etc. but being brought up a christian I kind of feel that it isn't right to kill a potential human being, tough one.

I think the need to save lifes can justify the means done though even if it is very unethical.

Don't see how "kill potential person" is a point in this? They don't abort fetuses just to get stem cells. The abortion has already happened and they're either going to throw it in the garbage or actually make use of it. I would think it would be much better to make use of it. The ethics of abortion doesn't have a place in this discussion really.

Also, I don't really see what's tough about it. You save a person who is already living, already has commitments, already has family/friends/kids, has a job, etc. or you don't save that person.


On a side note: Can't they get stem cells from umbilical cords?
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Right on.

And I say, yes.

I don't get why they don't allow the research of stem cells in the US. Abortion is legal, but the Christians whine about it. So they won't allow potential lives to be saved by using the stem cells? That part is just too evil for them I guess... It could save more lives then one unwanted fetus. And if the fetus is aborted anyway, why not use the f*cking stem cells? I don't see the logic. Either sh*t or get of the pot.

They do allow stem cell research in the US, they just have chosen to restrict government funding of it.

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Right on.

And I say, yes.

I don't get why they don't allow the research of stem cells in the US. Abortion is legal, but the Christians whine about it. So they won't allow potential lives to be saved by using the stem cells? That part is just too evil for them I guess... It could save more lives then one unwanted fetus. And if the fetus is aborted anyway, why not use the f*cking stem cells? I don't see the logic. Either sh*t or get of the pot.

Well they don't condone abortion at all. It's just a bit harder to overturn one of the most famous Supreme Court decisions in US history than it is to stop a new law coming into effect.
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#27
Pro-tip:

aborted foetuses are not the only source of embryonic stem cells.

Get your dumb ass uninformed "it's murder" opinions outta my face, because it doesn't have to be, and isn't.
#28
Yes, and where's the poll?
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#29
Yay.
There's no ethical reason not to now that said stemcells don't have to be obtained embrionically.
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#30
Yes, I'm all for it. They're well on their way to developing a cure for diabetes with stem cells, and as I've had type one diabetes since I was two years old I wouldn't mind being cured.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=embryos-survive-stem-cell-harvest

http://health.yahoo.com/pregnancy-afterdelivery/umbilical-cord-blood-stem-cells/healthwise--uq1027spec.html

Even if the cells are taken from an aborted foetus, who cares? It's going to be just as dead either way, might as well make use of the stem cells rather than just waste them.

It's the same as organ donation, if you're dead anyway what does it matter if your liver/heart/lungs etc are donated to someone else?
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#31
Now that they are finding new ways of creating stem cells from different things (umbilical cords, skin cells, etc.) I support stem-cell research. I support these ways of creating them, not the abortion method though.
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Pro-tip:

aborted foetuses are not the only source of embryonic stem cells.

Get your dumb ass uninformed "it's murder" opinions outta my face, because it doesn't have to be, and isn't.


I guess it depends on the method they use to acquire the stem cells. If it's from aborting fetuses or fertilizing ovules in a petri dish then I'm not cool with it. If on the other hand they use the following methods:

Now that they are finding new ways of creating stem cells from different things (umbilical cords, skin cells, etc.) I support stem-cell research. I support these ways of creating them, not the abortion method though.


then I'm cool with it.
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#35
yay, who cares if religous people say it's against god (ie george bush) who cares if some people have moral issues about it, most peple don't even understand circumstances on which its used.For example it saved someone with damaged lungs.


Its like the moral issues with abortion. "You're killing babies". No you're not. You're killing a mindless group of cells (depends on how far into pregnancy) , what do these people know about why some one has an abortion. Rape victims get treated the same as drunk teenagers for having an abortion.


People that disagree with anything like this don't know much about it. Anyway they have started stem cell research on non-embyoic cells.


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#36
its good, its some cool niw kind of recycling


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#37
Revolutionary research that could save millions of people's lives > the life of one unwanted baby who will probably spend most of his life in prison because he's mentally scarred from his single mother treating him like **** through childhood.
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#38
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Pro-tip:

aborted foetuses are not the only source of embryonic stem cells.

Get your dumb ass uninformed "it's murder" opinions outta my face, because it doesn't have to be, and isn't.


Who was that aimed at? Because your'e right that it is not murder if Stem Cells are taken from somewhere else and is infact a fantastic thing. If they publicised this fact then i'm sure there wouldn't be a problem with it. The main reason it isn't officail government policy in most countries is because they are worried about losing support from the religous community (keeping in mind that it isn't just the pope who is against it) and for alot of countries the main support is from religous people who don't even fully understand their own religion (i.e. christians who believe in creationism when the CCC says evolutionary) let alone science.
#39
Why do people always spell "yea" wrong?

And yea for stem cell research.
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#40
It's great. Embryonic stem cells are best because they have the potential to turn into all sorts of tissue.

And they're not taken from fetuses. They're taken from early embryos called blastocysts, about 4 days after fertilisation. Much later and they no longer have the potential to turn into any type of tissue.

They're just a clump of cells in no way similar to your baby-shaped fetus, and could be made from spare eggs produced in IVF. These eggs would normally be chucked out, so you're not wasting any life which would otherwise happen. And since IVF actual creates life which wouldn't be able to happen otherwise, embryonic stem cells would be a byproduct of creating life that helps to save more lives. Isn't that nice?