#1
Any ideas on how to do this? In a little bit I'm gonna go jam with my friend who plays keyboard and is actually pretty good (chops-wise), but he doesn't really know how to play progressions in the key I want to solo in, or the intervals of the scale for that matter. He just says to tell him what chords to play, but that gets difficult because you have to keep stopping and going and it can't naturally progress anywhere. Additionally he'll play major and minor or augmented chords at weird times which can completely change the song.

Also If I'm playing rhythm and he plays lead, he'll kind of just go off on a tangent and askew from the key I'm in, and it doesn't sound that good and is impossible to follow as it seperates further and further from a tonal center.


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Any simpler ways or tips for playing with someone who doesn't improvise well(which may be difficult) or some good songs to learn for just keyboard and guitar?
#2
Tell him to learn the damn scales, also U2.
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Tell him to learn the damn scales, also U2.


I completely agree, It's just I'm going over there tonight and I don't want to just get bored with it instantly in the time he's learning them
#4
Jazz.


Just have him play somthing rhythmic and you come in and play somthing over it. Improv FTFW
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What kind of keyboardist doesnt know basic theory?

Also, this^
-Guitar Gear-
1995 American Fender Strat, EMG 85 pup
Randall RH200 Head
Marshall 1960a Cab
Woods Acoustic
-Bass Gear-
Spector Legend 4 bass
Washburn Bantam bass
Hartke HA2500
Fender Bassman 410H
Play what you love, love what you play
#8
You could try suggesting to him to learn scales?

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#9
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What kind of keyboardist doesnt know basic theory?


Self taught? I have a friend who plays keyboard but has never had any training, he just learns songs by ear and plays what sounds right.
#10
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What? Where did he learn from?


He's similar to me in that I've never taken formal lessons, but I started about 12 years ago and I've taught myself theory by reading about it and listening to others who have been formally educated on it. He just kind of learns songs but not really the functionality or reasoning behind it. I mean he knows like C major and must transversely know A-minor but his applications aren't really strong.
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What kind of keyboardist doesnt know basic theory?

+1
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#12
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What kind of keyboardist doesnt know basic theory?


I think alot of older players don't because before the internet and mass production of instruments it was harder to come by the resources to learn with and you couldn't just read about it online.