#1
I recently put in emg's into my guitar. Have a valvking etc.(see sig). I can rarely turn my amp over one with my living situation. I have a RP-80 to play in my bedroom if need be but doesn't compare to a good amp. I've heard good things about the vypyr and i play a wide variety of music. i like my sound at higher volumes but i can't turn it up much as i said. What would the emg's be like with a solid state? or does anyone have any other sugestions for a new amp? I live in canada so good deals on used are almost non existant. UG i need some help.
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#2
Anyone?
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#4
You waited 7 minutes. It's 24 hours for a bump to be ok.

EMG's should be fine through a solid-state. Through a tube amp you get a bit of an over driven feel out of them. With a solid-state that isn't so much the case. Take your guitar to a store and try it.
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#5
my bad on the bump just no patience and wasn't aware of the rule.
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#6
It's all good. I've been guilty of doing it too.
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#7
hey zakkwyldefann i PM'd you for some more info on the vypyr
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#8
If you can hang out for a week or so I will let you know how the VK sounds like with a attenuator.

I'm building the attenuator and my VK is STILL at Peavey for repair(going on 11 weeks now). Hopefully the amp will be back this week and I should have the attenuator done at the same time.

If you don't want to wait I hear the Weber Mass Lite 100 is pretty cool for that cool cranked amp tone without the volume.
#9
Quote by Sin City Sid
If you can hang out for a week or so I will let you know how the VK sounds like with a attenuator.

I'm building the attenuator and my VK is STILL at Peavey for repair(going on 11 weeks now). Hopefully the amp will be back this week and I should have the attenuator done at the same time.

If you don't want to wait I hear the Weber Mass Lite 100 is pretty cool for that cool cranked amp tone without the volume.


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Wrong thread?

How do you figure bro? Looked to me he wanted to crank the amp but couldn't because of volume. If I'm wrong then my apologies. I didn't see anything that said he didn't like his VK, just that he couldn't turn it up. Just trying to come up with another way without the cost of a amp. And yes, I also own a Vypyr 15 for practice, and for those late night headphone sessions, cool little amp, but it's no tube.

Once again, if my responce does not fit here, then please ignore.
#11
Did you read the thread... he was asking if EMG pickups work on a solid-state amp? It has nothing to do with not being able to up the volume.

Unless I missed something?
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#12
Yes I read the thread. But a db is a db wheather it is a SS or a tube amp. He likes it loud so what difference does it make what amp he buys? He also did not complain about the tone he already had. Might as well keep what he already owns if he is happy and quiet it down to livable levels.

Just my .02 cents. I'll wait for him to chime in.
#13
an attenuator would be nice but it would be a bit pricey. I like the sound of my vk but can never turn it up to where it sounds the best. I just figured a solid state might be the answer at lower volumes. If i got the vypyr i'd get rid of the VK cause two amps would be pointless for me as i don't gig or anything. That's basically why i asked about my EMG's but like i said i was open to other suggestions. But if people think the VK below 1 sounds better than any of the settings on the vypyr at the same volume let me know.
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#14
i would also try the attenuator thing first, if you really like the cranked tone of your VK. however, if you've just become bored with it and want something that has tons of modelling and versatility, then i guess go with the Vyper. an attenuator will kinda act like another master volume over the amp, so you crank it to get that tone you like, and then the attenuator brings that volume down without losing the natural power tube distortion.

and i thought the bump rule was an hour, not a day.
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#15
I used to play a Schecter Hellraiser that had active EMG's through a Roland Cube 30-X and it sounded great. I didn't have any issues at all. Ideally you probably want to play active EMG's through a good tube amp but they don't sound like total junk if you play them through a solid-state amp.
#16
The mass lite 100 is only $165.00

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/masslite.htm

Sorry, I can't tell you how actives sound with my vypyr as I have no guitars with actives in it. I can tell you there is a dude here that plays in a cover band. They pack a very large house(casino actually) every weekend. He plays with actives in his carvin and plays through a roland vg-88 straight into the PA. Has great tone and can make them both sound like anybody he wants it to sound like.

Grab your geetar and head down to GC and plug in.

Edit

The attenuator will suck a bit of tone out but you can usually eq it back in.
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#17
Some say they dont notice a difference using EMGs with tubes or SS. But I dont use my EMG guitar unless Im using my tube amp. Yea it plays thru the SS amp just doesnt sound right like its sick or something.
#18
you should attenuate the VK's preamp section like ibanezpsycho does, with a volume pedal. i recommend you try it out

EDIT: listen to sin city sid
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#19
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you should attenuate the VK's preamp section like ibanezpsycho does, with a volume pedal. i recommend you try it out

EDIT: listen to sin city sid


Whoa bud, I'm not advocating a attenuator just yet as I have not put one on my VK. I'm saying if he wants to hang out and wait, i would let him know how it sounded. Also as stated before. There is the EMG thing and I have no experiance with active pups.

He could ask over in the VK thread if anyone has done this and how it sounded, somebody has have bound to do it. I do have a bud that has a VK100 and a hotplate but I have not heard him play it yet so I can not say how it sounded.

An attenuator is going to suck some tone, it is the nature of the beast. How much, I don't know. Some say they love it and some say it sucks azz. Tone is a personal thing.

He might want to head out to GC and ask someone to try out a hotplate on a VK as they should carry both. Note, Peavey uses spade connectors and not the standard audio plugs. GC may not carry the connector required.

Also ask "That Pink Queen" as he has built a L-pad attenuator. It is listed in this forum and even has some pics. He could shed some light on tone with the l-pad.

These are merly suggestions, at the end of the day he might determine that a good modeling amp is right up his alley, decent tone and it doesn't change with volume(generally).
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#20
i'm going to head to the gc to try out the vypyr tomorrow. i'll let you know how it goes. Sin city let me know when you try the VK with an attenuator
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#21
So i tested out a vypyr today at a GC. Seemed like it would be a nice little amp. The 6505 was probably the best distortion channel and the plexi had probably the nicest clean town. I think the speaker would need to break in to get a real nice tone. Or maybe even a speaker swap but a broken in stock speaker would be decent. Too bad my vintage 30 for the VK is 16 cause i think the Vypyr has an 8 ohm speaker (correct me if i'm wrong). Still a bit torn if i should trade in my VK. WHat would you guys do?
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#22
Quote by tomsy49
So i tested out a vypyr today at a GC. Seemed like it would be a nice little amp. The 6505 was probably the best distortion channel and the plexi had probably the nicest clean town. I think the speaker would need to break in to get a real nice tone. Or maybe even a speaker swap but a broken in stock speaker would be decent. Too bad my vintage 30 for the VK is 16 cause i think the Vypyr has an 8 ohm speaker (correct me if i'm wrong). Still a bit torn if i should trade in my VK. WHat would you guys do?

Yeah a better spreaker helps alot. The stock Blue Marvels aren't very good. The Vypyrs speaker is 8 ohm so you'd need to get an 8 ohm replacement. Too bad you can't keep the VK and get a Vypyr.
#23
that'd be nice but i can't justify having two amps just to play at home
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#24
Well bro, as I stated I would dime this mofo with an attenuator when I got it back. Honestly I still can't give you the info you need. The stock speaker seems to clip real quick. I wish I had a cab to plug in and dime it again. Truth is it just sounded terrible, even clean and with PV's recommended settings. It did clean up from the Epi LP to the USA Jackson soloist but that probably my person preference for the Seymour Duncan JB.

Sorry bro. The amp was driven hard, both sides but the speaker let anything great sounding go right out the door, even with all the cheap mods recommended here. Actually the OD pedal made it sound worse then without it and everything but the volume was turned down. I fv(k with the settings for a few hours but it just sounded like crap.

This amp only has a few hours on it and I'm sure the speaker will clear up some when it breaks in.

At the 9:00 clock setting, volume in clean channel it OD'ed well with the attenuator. Totally a speaker issue, they are crap pure and simple.

Look at the Weber 100w mass if you want to go that way. You should be able to plug headphones into the line out for those real quiet late night sessions.

I honestly thought the amp sounded better at bedroom levels, totally speaker.

Dime that bad boy with a good speaker and an attenuator and your set.
#25
Emg's sound fine with a solid state amp. I wouldn't worry so much man. Relax.
#26
Quote by tomsy49
that'd be nice but i can't justify having two amps just to play at home


Why not? They have different purposes. I own quite a few different amps. Mostly tube amps and some practice solid state amps. I only use my tube amps during recordings and band practice but sometimes play them at home. They all have different voices for different situations. If I never would have sold and traded some of my stuff I'd have so many amps and tones right now.
#27
i'd recommend the new Vox Valvetronix Vt30 if you're into something quieter with tubey tone, as they've got the power attenuator built-in in the back, and still get plenty loud if need be. But i haven't tried a Vypyr though.

It's nice to be able to just flick switches and get instant changes in tone, and can inspire you to play different sorts of music.

I play my vt30 with emg 81/85's, sd blackouts and passive sd invaders and they all sound good, and each one very different from the other (none bad, unless we're talking max guitar vol, max gain on clean channels as they're all high output pickups), although i need to do more eq'ing with the invaders cos they are bassier and radically different to the other two in tone, but still awesome.
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