#1
According to the guide, Santana's tone should be following:
gain 7
treble 10
mid 6
bass 5
reverb 2

However, what I got instead on my Blues Jr is (based on listening):
Gain: 1/12
Treble: 9/12
Bass: 7.5/12
Mid: 12/12
Master: 12/12

Is it my ear, or does the guideline is just merely a guideline?
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#3
depends on the song, as well as your gear
and also, as Mark G said, the tone comes from the fingers
so you can get his exact setup, and it will still not sound exactly the same
you can get close
really close, actually
but never his exact tone
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#5
even if you have the exact equipment as santana, you will sound different. this is due to the fact that everyone has different playing styles, and plays a piece their own way.
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#6
well the guide would have it noted somewhere the gear that there using to get his sound, and thats why its different to what you've got, other then that, tone comes from the guitar, the fingers and the technique
#7
I clearly remember three months ago when everyone dismissed fingers and say that tones are all in the amp and pickup. Oh well, thanks for answering.
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#8
you have a different amp to santana, which is going to have a different EQ, different amount of gain, different voicing. Sometimes even if it's the same model of amplifier it can sound very different.

^and yeah, you do have a point there: "tone is in the fingers" seems to be the new GG&A bandwagon. It's kind of wrong: Tone is only slightly in the fingers, based on nuances like the size of your fingers, the angles at which you use them, whether you pick closer to the bridge or the neck, things like that, it's also in the pick - thickness and size. It's also in the resonance of your body while the guitar rests against you. But there's no need to be like Eric Johnson about this: for the most part, tone comes from the gear, and how you play comes from your fingers. Your playing style is not your tone
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#9
Quote by Blompcube
you have a different amp to santana, which is going to have a different EQ, different amount of gain, different voicing. Sometimes even if it's the same model of amplifier it can sound very different.

^and yeah, you do have a point there: "tone is in the fingers" seems to be the new GG&A bandwagon. It's kind of wrong: Tone is only slightly in the fingers, based on nuances like the size of your fingers, the angles at which you use them, whether you pick closer to the bridge or the neck, things like that, it's also in the pick - thickness and size. It's also in the resonance of your body while the guitar rests against you. But there's no need to be like Eric Johnson about this: for the most part, tone comes from the gear, and how you play comes from your fingers. Your playing style is not your tone


I'm going to slightly disagree here. While it's true that most of the tone comes from the gear, it comes from the fingers too.


Let's put it this way. The fingers kind of shape the tone, and everything else finishes the product.

I mean, if you have bad finger tone, whatever you play will sound not so great.

Otherwise though, I agree 100 percent.
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#10
It's because your not playing a PRS through a Dumble Overdrive Special, thats probably why.
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I'm going to slightly disagree here. While it's true that most of the tone comes from the gear, it comes from the fingers too.


Let's put it this way. The fingers kind of shape the tone, and everything else finishes the product.

I mean, if you have bad finger tone, whatever you play will sound not so great.

Otherwise though, I agree 100 percent.

that's kind of what i was trying to say. i think that fingers do make a difference to the tone, just to a very very small degree that wouldn't be that noticable if it wasn't for the fact that playing styles are also unique to each individual. but saying "tone is MOSTLY in the fingers" is far from correct.
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#12
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that's kind of what i was trying to say. i think that fingers do make a difference to the tone, just to a very very small degree that wouldn't be that noticable if it wasn't for the fact that playing styles are also unique to each individual. but saying "tone is MOSTLY in the fingers" is far from correct.



Saying tone is mostly in the fingers is a bit much.


The difference may be small from one player's playing style to another, but the difference is very much noticeable. That's why you can hear a certain guitar player from a mile away.
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It's because your not playing a PRS through a Dumble Overdrive Special, thats probably why.


This.

And plus, I really doubt that Carlos' settings are anything like the ones posted.
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Saying tone is mostly in the fingers is a bit much.


The difference may be small from one player's playing style to another, but the difference is very much noticeable. That's why you can hear a certain guitar player from a mile away.


That isn't the tone though, it's the playing style
#16
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