Poll: Are we overreacting to the threat of islamic terrorists?
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View poll results: Are we overreacting to the threat of islamic terrorists?
Yes, there is hardly any threat from terrorists
30 20%
Yes, but there is a threat
69 45%
No, the terrorists are a definite threat
25 16%
HOLY **** A MUSLIM!
28 18%
Voters: 152.
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#1
I've been thinking lately, theres been alot of terrorism in the world before the recent attacks by radical muslims. However the world has never before gone so overboard in its need to investigate the public and suspect everyone.

In Britain we had much more regular attacks by the I.R.A., yet we never had the same type of anti-terror legislation as we do now. The question is why?

Pit, discuss.
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#2
9/11

As I watched the news coverage during the day (I was in London at work) I knew this would end up signifying a major change somewhere, even if I wasn't sure where or what. I half expected use of nuclear weapons at some point, but I suppose screwing as all into using identy cards and invading our privacy works even better.
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#5
How often do you see an appropriate, intelligent reaction to a threat?

Not often at all, I'd imagine.
#6
Because the labour party want to amass huge databases of information about you. And detain you for 42 days without trial.
#7
Statically speaking you have a higher chance of being killed by a shark or lightning than by terrorists.

It seems every generation theres some new thing to fear by the american people.

Vietnam, Drugs, Aids, Terrorism
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#9
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Wasn't the Vietnam War kinda like an attempt against terrorists?

It was more of a money thing, as you'll see most American "conflicts" are really about.
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#10
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It was more of a money thing, as you'll see most American "conflicts" are really about.

Eh. Most conflicts of any kind are about property of some kind.
#11
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It's because it happened in America.

Not only in America. There have numerous attacks around the World including one in your own country.

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Statically speaking you have a higher chance of being killed by a shark or lightning than by terrorists.

It seems every generation theres some new thing to fear by the american people.

Vietnam, Drugs, Aids, Terrorism

You're an idiot.
#12
Im personally believe everyone has gone overboard. I can see why 9/11 shook the U.S. so badly, but at least in Britain, weve had to deal with much more severe terrorist threats in the past. Just compare, weve had sofar in Britain the London Bombings. But compare that to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_actions
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#14
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Not only in America. There have numerous attacks around the World including one in your own country.



Yes the point i was making is that the only one you hear about is 9/11 and that is why it is over exagerated because America seem to have a talent of over dramatising anything and everything.
#15
Islamic terrorism is much more widespread throughout the world than the IRA was. We can't forget that there are also millions of fundementalist Muslims in the world who take the Koran literally. I don't think we've overreacted to it; I just think we've handled it incorrectly.
#16
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You're an idiot.

Care to explain in a manner not expressed commonly by 12 year olds?
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#17
I think they are a threat, but I also think that anything that would compromise the very principles that freedom is based on in order to protect us from them is much worse. We don't live in a perfect world; there will always be people trying to hurt others. It's not gonna stop.

Is the whole reaction to terrorism a veil over ulterior motives to gain greater control over the masses? Dunno. I wouldn't put it past the man, though. If you ask me the barbaric exploitation of people that we look into the past at with disgust is still alive and well. They've only gotten smarter.
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#18
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Care to explain in a manor not expressed commonly by 12 year olds?

Your manor or mine?
#19
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Your manor or mine?

Yours is much nicer, goddamn ipod auto correct =[
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#20
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It was more of a money thing, as you'll see most American "conflicts" are really about.


I think every conflict is based on an argument over possesions/money/land - sometimes with religion used as a rather thin disguise.

As my Grandmother says, Money is the root of all evil
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#21
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Islamic terrorism is much more widespread throughout the world than the IRA was. We can't forget that there are also millions of fundementalist Muslims in the world who take the Koran literally. I don't think we've overreacted to it; I just think we've handled it incorrectly.


I understand this, but why in Britain, were weve had to deal with severe terrorism in the past do we suddenly introduce aggresive legislation when there is less of a threat to the people. We didnt have CCTV, ID Cards, etc. then, so why now?

Also lets not make this into a Muslims preach violence. Islam is no more violent then Christianity (Old Testament). Please keep religion out of the thread.
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#22
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I think every conflict is based on an argument over possesions/money/land - sometimes with religion used as a rather thin disguise.

As my Grandmother says, Money is the root of all evil

Not to be a smartass, but it's "the love of money is the root of all evil." It's a biblical quote, I believe



I understand this, but why in Britain, were weve had to deal with severe terrorism in the past do we suddenly introduce aggresive legislation when there is less of a threat to the people. We didnt have CCTV, ID Cards, etc. then, so why now?

Also lets not make this into a Muslims preach violence. Islam is no more violent then Christianity (Old Testament). Please keep religion out of the thread.


Like I said, we've handled it wrong.

The Koran does preach violence against non-believers, as done the bible.
#23
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Care to explain in a manor not expressed commonly by 12 year olds?

How can you say that Aids, terrorism and drug abuse were only things to fear and not serious problems?
#24
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Your manor or mine?
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Wow. I normally don't laugh at things like this but... ****in LOL. Well done.
#25
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How can you say that Aids, terrorism and drug abuse were only things to fear and not serious problems?

Who the hell said that??

I was trying to get the point across that we as a country have a high tendancy to live in fear.
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#26
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Also lets not make this into a Muslims preach violence. Islam is no more violent then Christianity (Old Testament). Please keep religion out of the thread.

In many ways I would consider Islam to be more violent than Christianity. The average Muslim maybe not?
#27
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Who the hell said that??

I was trying to get the point across that we as a country have a high tendancy to live in fear.

Perhaps rightly so in the case of Aids and drugs.
#28
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Perhaps rightly so in the case of Aids and drugs.


What's wrong with drugs?
#29
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In many ways I would consider Islam to be more violent than Christianity. The average Muslim maybe not?



All semitic Relgions preech similar amounts of violence. But thats neither here nor there to this thread.

The question is, why are we introducing these safety measures now, when, at least in Britain, weve been dealing with the same, or worse, for years.

EDIT: On topic please guys.
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#30
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What's wrong with drugs?

I would say that the influence of hard drugs on society is something to be feared and controlled.
#31
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What's wrong with drugs?

nothing, some people just like to regulate everyone elses lives.

Edit: waits for someone to tell me I advocate selling heroin to school kids.

I think after becoming an adult, the government shouldnt be allowed to tell you what to do with your body as long as it doesnt physically harm anyone else.
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#32
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Because the labour party want to amass huge databases of information about you. And detain you for 42 days without trial.


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#33

All semitic Relgions preech similar amounts of violence. But thats neither here nor there to this thread.

This is an ISLAMIC terrorism thread, of course the Koran is relevant. It's even moreso when millions of Muslims take passages about killing infidels literally.
#34
I think one thing it's definitely done is create an image of Muslims in Britain. Too many people in Britain are generalising more than ever, suspecting every Muslim they meet to be an extremist.


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#35
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Not to be a smartass, but it's "the love of money is the root of all evil." It's a biblical quote, I believe




No worries - it makes pefect sense, and kinda prooves a point that my grndmother would take a bible quote and live by half of it.

It's not about religion - don't let that put you off the path. It's about morons using thier blinkered interpretation of a peice of text to justify thier desire to hurt others and take thier stuff.
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#36
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This is an ISLAMIC terrorism thread, of course the Koran is relevant. It's even moreso when millions of Muslims take passages about killing infidels literally.



No this thread is about the threat of islamic terrorism and comparison to other terrorist organisations in the past. Not a thread about why islam breeds terrorists.


Sofar nobody has given me a good anwser to the original question.

Why is the world going security mad now, when theyrs been a significant terrorist thread in many countries for decades? (ill admit less so in the U.S., but still Oklahoma bombings etc.)
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#37


No this thread is about the threat of islamic terrorism and comparison to other terrorist organisations in the past. Not a thread about why islam breeds terrorists.

Also its Quran.

I don't understand what you're not getting. It is different because millions of people worldwide accept the idea that non-believers should be killed. Thus, it is much more dangerous than any other threat.

Both are acceptable.

Why is the world going security mad now, when theyrs been a significant terrorist thread in many countries for decades? (ill admit less so in the U.S., but still Oklahoma bombings etc.)

Because this isn't a one time thing like the Oklahoma bombing was, and power-hungry politicians jumped at the chance to have more control.
#38
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In many ways I would consider Islam to be more violent than Christianity. The average Muslim maybe not?

don't turn this into "islam=violence". I'm sure you know not much about the religion and that's not even the point of this thread - or terrorism.
Terrorism is not about a threat from the average muslim, it's a threat to human beings from other human beings who have twisted their laws to justify their actions. We can never know how much of a threat it is because we can never know the intentions of these people and they're not likely to tell us anytime soon.

Also islamic terrorism =/= islamic. Those people are obviously not muslims as the religion doesn't allow murder. It's just terrorism.
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#40
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I'm a muslim, and 'm kinda offended by your last option.

HOLY **** A MUSLIM!
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