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#1
I want to get a new guitar, and im looking for a guitar with a nice nirvana tone to it.
No more than $600, any recomendations?
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#2
You could probably get a nirvana tone with any guitar, but if you go into more detail of what else you want I could recommend more.


but something with a humbucker would be good.
#3
anything cheap woth a humbucker, ussualy cheap woods (basswood) and just play it through a Ds-1.
#9
you could get a guitar for less than 600 to make a nirvana tone... get a first act at walmart for 100 dollars and a distortion pedal. your good
#10
Quote by jake911
You could probably get a nirvana tone with any guitar, but if you go into more detail of what else you want I could recommend more.


but something with a humbucker would be good.


Cobain didn't use humbuckers (for the most part) till after he got famous.

TS : With that ammount of money you won't be able to get much. Cobain used Mustangs, Jaguars, Strats, Tele's, and he used some Morisite....but I think he only used Mustangs and Jags for recording nevermind and in utero, he used an Epiphone ET270, and some other random guitars for bleach.

but if you're looking for cobains tone on nevermind or in utero it'll cost you more than what you have

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anything cheap woth a humbucker, ussualy cheap woods (basswood) and just play it through a Ds-1.


Basswood?

Mustang = Alder
Jaguar = Alder
Strats = Alder
Tele's = alder
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#11
why is everyone recommending humbuckers? cobain used mostly single coils. Get a Mustang
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#13
Fender Guitars: Mustangs, Jaguars, Strats.

Boss DS-2 for distortion, yes that's the pedal he used.

I think he use an EHX Small Stone Chorus too
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#14
Epiphone SG's are great for their price, but Yamaha Pacificas (Stratocaster) are closer to Cobain's sound because the strat was his main guitar. I would personally go for this http://epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=24&CollectionID=16 or this http://epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=27&CollectionID=16 which is what i have.

It also comes down to taste i would go to a shop and just try out some axes see which ones you like but yeah those two models are reliable and great for their price, but as they're factory models i would get it serviced to fine tune it.
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Epiphone SG's are great for their price, but Yamaha Pacificas (Stratocaster) are closer to Cobain's sound because the strat was his main guitar. I would personally go for this http://epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=24&CollectionID=16 or this http://epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=27&CollectionID=16 which is what i have.

It also comes down to taste i would go to a shop and just try out some axes see which ones you like but yeah those two models are reliable and great for their price, but as they're factory models i would get it serviced to fine tune it.


Yeah, uhhh...don't listen to this dude.

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Fender Guitars: Mustangs, Jaguars, Strats.

Boss DS-2 for distortion, yes that's the pedal he used.

I think he use an EHX Small Stone Chorus too


Fender guitars : Mustangs, Jaguars, Strats, Tele's, and I guess he used the Jag-stang a few times.
Effects : Boss DS-1 & DS-2, EHX Small Clone, EHX Big Muff (rarely), EHX Poly-Chorus.
#16
Cobain mostly played short-scale Fenders, but he heavily modded them. On his Mustangs he added either Super Distortions or JB's at the bridge (generally keeping the stock single coil in the neck) and on his Jaguars he usually replaced both single coils with humbuckers: he used PAF's, JB's and Super Distortions at various times.

He also hated tremolos and usually had them either blocked off or replaced altogether with Tune-O-Matic style bridges and stoptails. (This meant that he was using a 12" radius bridge on a 9.5" or 7.25" fretboard!)

The closest thing you can get to this today in an affordable guitar is the Fender Classic Player Jaguar Special HH. But you'll need to spend $699 on one (unless you can score a great deal off eBay using a Live.com purchase).

With this guitar and a crunchy tube amp (Mesa Boogie or even an Orange Tiny Terror) along with an EHX Small Clone and a BOSS distortion pedal, you can totally nail a classic Nirvana tone.
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#17
thank for the help, i had played a mustang and liked it, but would i be able to replace the tremolo with a new one, or would i at least be able to get a tailpiece.
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#18
why? nirvana?
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#20
i understand that, but why would you want to replicate their sound?
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#22
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why? nirvana?


It's like that famous reply when some dude walks into the Maserati or Ferrari dealer and asks: "How much is that car?" ...and the dealer says... "Dude, if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

Why? Nirvana?

If you have to ask, then you just don't "Get It". That's not a criticism, either. Either you "Get" Nirvana or you don't. I'll never include Cobain in a list of "Great Guitarists of All Time", but as a songwriter he is in some pretty elite company.

Being a songwriter/vocalist/guitarist in a Power Trio is no small feat...and for several years, Nirvana was the biggest band in the world. Hell, they have an entire genre of music connected with them.

Why not?
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#24
There's another possibility for you. You could get one of the new Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics, which are a lot like a Mustang. The Duo-Sonic is a 24" short-scale guitar with a skinny neck (41.3mm) just like a Mustang. It also has two single coils and a fixed bridge (sorta like a Telecaster bridge). Here's a link to a thread I started on HCGF: link-o-ramma.

Now: the lone color combo is a little unusual, but it is vintange and it's not hideous. It's a sandy color with a gold aluminum pickguard. It also sports 2 single coil pickups. You could easily replace the bridge pickup with a HotRail to get a humbucker in a single-coil size. And I've read a thread in which some guy completely modded his Duo-Sonic, repainting it Daphne Blue and adding a 5-ply white pickguard and a rosewood neck. Freakin awesome mod.

Anyway, this would get you an inexpensive (but not crap-ola) 24" scale guitar -- which is the correct scale you need for the basis of your Nirvana tone -- along with a couple of single coil pups. You need one in the neck for the "quiet" stuff, and you need an HB in the bridge for the "nasty" stuff. You'd have to do some mods, but the neck, body, bridge and tuners would be OK.

Here's a nice shot from some rich guy:



And here's a picture of the modded Duo Sonic I talked about:

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#25
Quote by Armchair Bronco
It's like that famous reply when some dude walks into the Maserati or Ferrari dealer and asks: "How much is that car?" ...and the dealer says... "Dude, if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

Why? Nirvana?

If you have to ask, then you just don't "Get It". That's not a criticism, either. Either you "Get" Nirvana or you don't. I'll never include Cobain in a list of "Great Guitarists of All Time", but as a songwriter he is in some pretty elite company.

Being a songwriter/vocalist/guitarist in a Power Trio is no small feat...and for several years, Nirvana was the biggest band in the world. Hell, they have an entire genre of music connected with them.

Why not?

In my opinion, Cobain wasn't much of a songwriter either. He wrote a few catchy songs, but not anything that truly impresses me. The only song he wrote that I can really appreciate for the song's simple structure is Something in the Way.

That said, I don't like Cobain's tone, and I can't imagine why anyone would want to replicate it, but doing so is not immensely difficult as everyone says it is. He used a Jaguar, but really all you need is a fat strat, a DS-1, and an Electro-Harmonix Chorus.

Cobain himself said that most of his guitars were total crap, and there were tons of problems with the action and intonation. Really, his tone is not that hard to get.
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#26
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In my opinion, Cobain wasn't much of a songwriter either. He wrote a few catchy songs, but not anything that truly impresses me. The only song he wrote that I can really appreciate for the song's simple structure is Something in the Way.

That said, I don't like Cobain's tone, and I can't imagine why anyone would want to replicate it, but doing so is not immensely difficult as everyone says it is. He used a Jaguar, but really all you need is a fat strat, a DS-1, and an Electro-Harmonix Chorus.

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#27
"Lithium" is a brilliant song.

So is "Come As You Are" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Both of these songs regularly appear on international Top 10 or Top 20 lists of the greatest songs in rock and roll history. And Nirvana's swansong Unplugged album is still highly acclaimed even by critics who dislike everything else that Nirvana ever did.

And for power-chord based simplicity with catchy lyrics it's hard to beat songs like "Sappy" and "Verse Chorus Verse".
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#28
i think that popular music itself prooves that popularity has nothing to do with being a musician
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#29
Quote by Armchair Bronco
"Lithium" is a brilliant song.

So is "Come As You Are" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Both of these songs regularly appear on international Top 10 or Top 20 lists of the greatest songs in rock and roll history. And Nirvana's swansong Unplugged album is still highly acclaimed even by critics who dislike everything else that Nirvana ever did.

And for power-chord based simplicity with catchy lyrics it's hard to beat songs like "Sappy" and "Verse Chorus Verse".

I don't read top 20 lists. I prefer to form my own opinions of music instead of having some moron at Rolling Stone magazine form it for me.
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#30
Quote by Holy-Diver
i understand that, but why would you want to replicate their sound?


Cause he had great tone in studio.

Quote by Armchair Bronco
There's another possibility for you. You could get one of the new Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics, which are a lot like a Mustang. The Duo-Sonic is a 24" short-scale guitar with a skinny neck (41.3mm) just like a Mustang. It also has two single coils and a fixed bridge (sorta like a Telecaster bridge). Here's a link to a thread I started on HCGF: link-o-ramma.

Now: the lone color combo is a little unusual, but it is vintange and it's not hideous. It's a sandy color with a gold aluminum pickguard. It also sports 2 single coil pickups. You could easily replace the bridge pickup with a HotRail to get a humbucker in a single-coil size. And I've read a thread in which some guy completely modded his Duo-Sonic, repainting it Daphne Blue and adding a 5-ply white pickguard and a rosewood neck. Freakin awesome mod.

Anyway, this would get you an inexpensive (but not crap-ola) 24" scale guitar -- which is the correct scale you need for the basis of your Nirvana tone -- along with a couple of single coil pups. You need one in the neck for the "quiet" stuff, and you need an HB in the bridge for the "nasty" stuff. You'd have to do some mods, but the neck, body, bridge and tuners would be OK.

Here's a nice shot from some rich guy:



And here's a picture of the modded Duo Sonic I talked about:



No...
If you're going to buy from squier get a Jagmaster, great guitar, with ****ty tuners. It's a 250$ guitar that feels almost as good as my 850$ mustang.

The gap between the "bridge" pup on that duo-sonic is pretty much like a middle pup, it won't sound like a bridge pup.

as for cobains mustangs, he would put a JB in the bridge (not super distortions), and sometimes he'd put a texas special in the neck.

for his Jaguars, at the beginning he had a Super Distortion in the bridge, but he later switched that out for a JB. in the neck he had a PAF, but he NEVER used the neck pup, he used tape to keep the pickup selector on the bridge pup.

Also single coils aren't as bad for nirvana-ish stuff as people may say it is. In my band my mustang (2 singlecoils) can handle my own material fine...and my band is MUCH more aggressive than Nirvana.
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#31
try taking a dump in a crappy fender. then dont play it till you have sat on both hands until they fall asleep. oh and make sure to badly finger the same 4 chords over and over again.
#32
Quote by Armchair Bronco
"Lithium" is a brilliant song.

So is "Come As You Are" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Both of these songs regularly appear on international Top 10 or Top 20 lists of the greatest songs in rock and roll history. And Nirvana's swansong Unplugged album is still highly acclaimed even by critics who dislike everything else that Nirvana ever did.

And for power-chord based simplicity with catchy lyrics it's hard to beat songs like "Sappy" and "Verse Chorus Verse".


he stole the guitar from come as you are from another band. and you say he had a music genre? he played punk. how did he create that genre? people tagged it grunge. but he called it punk.
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he stole the guitar from come as you are from another band. and you say he had a music genre? he played punk. how did he create that genre? people tagged it grunge. but he called it punk.


Ask 100 people: "Name one grunge band."

99 people will say: Nirvana

The one guy originally from Seattle will say: Mudhoney or Green River

It's not my fault that Nirvana epitomizes the genre.

The Beatles didn't invent "pop", but most people would agree that The Beatles were the greatest pop band of all time.
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#34
its not my fault people put ****ty tag lines to a music category! and im pretty sure the video that made them popular was called the year that punk broke. not the year that grunge was invented.
#35
You know what? You should just shop around for a used JagStang on eBay.

The going rate for completed auctions is between $400 and $550. Then you'll get a short-scale guitar with a humbucker in the bridge and single coil in the neck, just the way Kurt liked things.

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#36
Everyone here is way off. You want to get a real nirvana sound? Get a cheap guitar, smash into amp, then play. Theres your nirvana tone.
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#37
I have a theory that skilled guitarists who hang out at HCGF and UG making posts about how much Nirvana sucks and what a ****ty songwriter / guitarists / singer Kurt Cobain was are just a little jealous.

Jealous that some blue collar miscreant from Aberdeen, Washington became for a few short years the biggest name in all of Rock 'n' Roll. Nirvana was the first mega band of the MTV era, and their success rested on little more than a diet of power chords, arpeggios, dirt simple solos, primitive lyrics, and walls of distortion.

Oh, and when they performed live, the general consensus was that: "No one rocks harder than Nirvana."

To this day, shredders and "technicial specialists" alike can't figure out how or why such a "talentless" band managed to rocket to fame out of nowhere. Deny their talent all you will, but to quote Galileo:

"E pur si muove"
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Quote by Armchair Bronco
I have a theory that skilled guitarists who hang out at HCGF and UG making posts about how much Nirvana sucks and what a ****ty songwriter / guitarists / singer Kurt Cobain was are just a little jealous.

Jealous that some blue collar miscreant from Aberdeen, Washington became for a few short years the biggest name in all of Rock 'n' Roll. Nirvana was the first mega band of the MTV era, and their success rested on little more than a diet of power chords, arpeggios, dirt simple solos, primitive lyrics, and walls of distortion.

Oh, and when they performed live, the general consensus was that: "No one rocks harder than Nirvana."

To this day, shredders and "technicial specialists" alike can't figure out how or why such a "talentless" band managed to rocket to fame out of nowhere. Deny their talent all you will, but to quote Galileo:

"E pur si muove"


ok, im not jeoulous, they where not even close to the first mega band on mtv or the era or the era of mtv before they had a video. i have seen them live 3 times. i lived in tacoma washington when bleach came out. and everyone knows why such talentless musicians came to fame. its the same as rap lol.
#39
Well, Nirvana's Nevermind album was released over 17 years ago, in September of 1991.

And yet here we are, nearly twenty year later, still talking about it.

Nevermind is one of the classic albums in Rock 'n' Roll history, and its place is secure. Twenty years from now, people will still be talking about and arguing about Nirvana. And the opening riff to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" will still be one of the signature riffs in all of rockdom.

But I guarantee you that in twenty years, no one will be talking about any of the run-o-the-mill rappers who are popular today.
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#40
thats why a run of the mill rapper owns a basketball team rite? nad fanboys like you will be the only ones talking about nirvana in 20 years. did you see a big kurt gobang memorial service this year? nope. any anniversary plans for next year? nope. do people flock over seas just to see his grave like say, jim morrison? no. he was a flash in the pan. you act like he was a pioneering legend. hes not jimi hendrix. hes not jim morrison. he did nothing for music. give it up fanboy, he sold out and sucked anyways. HE STOLE other peoples songs for christs sake!!!!
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