#1
Ok, out of these two, which one is bigger and which one is better sounding. I am not to smart when it comes to measurements, so if you don't mind telling me what it means when it says something like "2x12" and stuff like that, that will relaly be appreciated.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RX412-4x12-Cabinet?sku=480738

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-RS125CX-2X12-1X15-Speaker-Cabinet?sku=601011

Second, is this worth getting, and if so, is it one of those modling amps, because it says it has effects so that makes me think that.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MG100HDFX-Head-?sku=483103
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Last edited by darondood at Nov 25, 2008,
#2
2x12

The 2 is the number of speakers and the 12 is the size of each speaker in inches.
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#3
A: You are aware that those are cabs right? You can't plug your guitar straight into them. If you DO know that, I suggest a Marshall cab, loaded with Celestions. Anything else is pointless, and you'll find a lot of artists using Marshall cabs regardless of what head they're using.
B: No, the Marshall MG is not worth getting. Actually, it's ****.
#4
1st, the marshall head is nice, a lot of people will say its crap, but thats just because they expect better out of a marshall. Its still better than a lot of solid state eads

on your two choices... 2x 12 means there are two twelve inch woofer cones. speakers.

So you have a 100 watt amp head, and you're looking at 200 watt cabs. Go withe the 4x12 i guess, its a closer match on power handling. You might want to invest in a more powerful amp head. a 200 watt amp head would match well with both of those cabs, and be louder than ****
#5
Thanks guys. BTW, when you mean inches, is that circumference, or diameter?
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#6
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Thanks guys. BTW, when you mean inches, is that circumference, or diameter?

Diameter.
#7
Start off with the 4x12 cab. Then if you're wanting to build a fullstack, add the 1x15 underneath the 4x12. Has anyone played through a 1x15 on here before? They add balls to any rig
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#8
mg heads are good? i dont have a opinion on them but i would never take the risk just because there rep
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mg heads are good? i dont have a opinion on them but i would never take the risk just because there rep



I wouldn't say they're good, but they're not terrible like everyone makes them out to be. The cabs are what does them in
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#10
They are quite unreliable, but so are cheap crates, and line 6s

I would recommend a peavey vyper head
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I would recommend a peavey vyper head

There isn't one.
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#12
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Damn could have sworn there was, Other option would be to use either the 120w or 100w combo as a head
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#13
Quote by isan
They are quite unreliable, but so are cheap crates



Wrong.

I've had an MG head now for 5 years that I use for a backup head. I can't say I've ever had any trouble with it before. And that thing has taken some road abuse. Also I used to have an older crate head that had the **** beat out of it too.
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#14
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Wrong.

I've had an MG head now for 5 years that I use for a backup head. I can't say I've ever had any trouble with it before. And that thing has taken some road abuse. Also I used to have an older crate head that had the **** beat out of it too.

Dude just because you have one that works well doesn't mean that others have that luck. I have a cheaper crate,did mine break? twice! Did my buddies ? Yeah! My buddy's Mg Has been broken so many times i have lost count. The fact is that with cheap amps you often get unreliable amps because there are often lemons due to poor QC.
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#16
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Dude just because you have one that works well doesn't mean that others have that luck. I have a cheaper crate,did mine break? twice! Did my buddies ? Yeah! My buddy's Mg Has been broken so many times i have lost count. The fact is that with cheap amps you often get unreliable amps because there are often lemons due to poor QC.



Take the advice you just gave
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#17
Here's a little heads up on cabinents. It matters which speakers are inside; not the name on the front. You can save yourself a lot of $$ with this advise. See what speakers are IN the cabinet. The name on the front doesn't mean ****. A 4x12 with say, 4 celestion blue alcino's is the same no matter whose name is on it. ITS A CABINET. Heads are a diff story.

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#18
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Here's a little heads up on cabinents. It matters which speakers are inside; not the name on the front. You can save yourself a lot of $$ with this advise. See what speakers are IN the cabinet. The name on the front doesn't mean ****. A 4x12 with say, 4 celestion blue alcino's is the same no matter whose name is on it. ITS A CABINET. Heads are a diff story.



Actually there's more to it than that. Sealed or unsealed front, open or closed back, dead airspace inside the cab, distance from the backing to the front, etc. Then there's cosmetic stuff like metal corners, casters, handles, etc.


I would reccomend looking at Vader cabs or Avatar cabs over a Randall cab though. Pretty much the same features for less cash
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#19
Quote by Flux'D
Actually there's more to it than that. Sealed or unsealed front, open or closed back, dead airspace inside the cab, distance from the backing to the front, etc. Then there's cosmetic stuff like metal corners, casters, handles, etc.


I would reccomend looking at Vader cabs or Avatar cabs over a Randall cab though. Pretty much the same features for less cash


Yeah, there is more to it than that, such as optimal sq. in. space etc. but I honestly have never been able to discern the difference at a live show scenario of any cabinet containing the same speakers. In my bedroom I can pretty much tell as far as fully closed or open but other than that. . . nahh. I don't see playing a 4x12 or 2 in my bedroom anymore either. . . tinitus. I'm sure guys will say they can hear the subtlyties, and maybe can. Maybe my ears aren't as good from years of abuse. Who knows?

I'll check out the Vaders when I get a chance, though.

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#20
There is a big difference between a sealed and unsealed front. A sealed front has more bass to it than an unsealed. Or maybe it's the other way around?


Dude the Vader cabs are bulletproof. Well, not literally but they're pretty stout. The covering they use on them is the same stuff they spray the beds of pickups with. You can't hurt them.
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