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Alright, I'm almost afraid to start this thread, but we'll see how it goes.

I've been researching intellectual comedy quite a bit (as part of a project I'm completing, where I teach a class about this genre of comedy). I've basically put together how I plan to give the most in-depth analytical look into this style.

My main focus is going to be WHAT it is, WHERE it originated, WHY it's important, WHO initially popularized it, etc. I'm going to be delving deep into the world of George Bernard Shaw, as he is a prominent figure in this field.

The requirements are:

- Teach one full Grade 12 Drama class (76 minutes, very small class size, about 9 students)

- I must compile a written presentation that includes all of my work, notes, etc.

- Prepare a handout outlining and detailing the most specific, important parts of my presentation.

- Organize a warm up activity pertaining to intellectual comedy.

- Organize an actual full-length activity once the students have listened to me speak for a while, to put what they've learned to use.

So, what I would like to see is your take on intellectual comedy, if it plays a role in your life at all, some suggestions as to what I could use as activities, some examples that you know of, groups on UG I could join (maybe?) or even links to any information. I thank all of you who make suggestions and contributions - I appreciate it a lot.
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Just watch the politics on TV.
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What do you mean by intellectual comedy? Shakespeare?
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What do you mean by intellectual comedy? Shakespeare?


Oooh, looks like we're getting somewhere!

Well, yeah, Shakespeare could definitely fit in there, but I don't want to use him much, because a classmate of mine is doing his lesson on Will, so I don't want to steal any of his work by accident, if you know what I mean.

But, like, satire, in essence. Subliminally pointing out flaws in society, government, etc. It can be other forms too, either than plays. For instance, the Colbert Report or something akin to that would be considered intellectual comedy.

Sorry if this didn't clear it up, but I hope you sort of get the idea, and perhaps you might have some ideas now.

EDIT: KeepOnRotting, Carlin and Hicks are prime examples of what I'm getting into. So feel free to contribute if you have anything to say about those guys or know of others.
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Intellectual comedy doesn't exist where I'm from. Neither does intellect. I love satire and things like that, but very few people around here understand humor above Family Guy and South Park dick jokes.
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Prime example of lacking intellect and at the same time, humour.

EDIT: ^ Yep, I definitely am mentioning Monty Python. Haven't really looked at Dogma; do you recommend I check it out?

EDIT2: Oscar Wilde - I'll check him out too. Keep 'em coming, guys. Don't forget to suggest games or exercises which could help, if you have any. Any Grade 12 Drama students here, or people who've taken the course?
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This. I've read The Importance of Being Earnest and it was very humorous. We read it in class, so the jokes were understood one at a time by groups of 4 or 5 people. Everyone else just looked at us funny.
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This. I've read The Importance of Being Earnest and it was very humorous. We read it in class, so the jokes were understood one at a time by groups of 4 or 5 people. Everyone else just looked at us funny.


Ah, intellect does exist in the far away region of Jotunheim! Excellent! I'll try and find a copy of this at the library, or excerpts online. Many thanks.
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I've only read The Picture of Dorian Gray (and his essay on socialism, but he was serial in that) and there were definitely some "xD" moments.
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Alright, cool, cool. That's the second time I've seen Dimitri Martin - If I, so I will certainly look at it. I'll see if I can dig up something on Mr. Gray, as well.
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Have a look at Dylan Moran, Have I got News for You (UK TV series)... uum, will post more if my brain starts to work any better than it is at the moment... Also where are you drawing the line forintellectual? I mean I suppose fart jokes are equal to or above some peoples intellect (where I'm from anyway) so to those people it would be considered intellectual
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I'd recommend (practically) anything involving Chris Morris....so look for Brass Eye, The Day Today & Nathan Barley in particular
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Have a look at Dylan Moran, Have I got News for You (UK TV series)... uum, will post more if my brain starts to work any better than it is at the moment... Also where are you drawing the line forintellectual? I mean I suppose fart jokes are equal to or above some peoples intellect (where I'm from anyway) so to those people it would be considered intellectual


Well, I don't think fart jokes is what I'm after.

Like, you know, just intelligent, witty humour that's been developed by extensive analytical research. Fart jokes are, well, really immature. Don't get me wrong, sometimes they're funny, but come on. I think I've confused a number of people. Just think of satire. I'll check out Moran though, for sure.

EDIT: I'm receiving a pleasantly surprising turn out. Keep 'em coming. Oh, if you can suggest plays as well, if you know of any. For example, "Death of a Salesman" is an intellectually comedic play.
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I'm not too clear on what you're getting at, but I recommend you reference, quote - or at least paraphrase - Bill Hick's political comedy - Shock and Awe, Rant in E Minor, Arizona Bay; and Stewart Lee. He is a brilliant British comedian, cutting, political and very intelligent. Look him up, some of his stuff may be a bit focused on Britain, I assume you're not British, but there's stuff you can use.

I'm not sure how intellectual he is considered, I think he writes very well, but look up Jeremy Clarkson's columns, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/ I find them very funny, and if satire is what you're after, those columns should do.

I'd say Bill Bryson's books, espeically The Thunderbolt Kid, Notes From a Big Country and The Lost Continent would be considered quite intellectual comedy.

I'm reading a book called My Name is Legion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Name_Is_Legion_(novel) which is a hefty satire on British politics, press, religion and its people. If you have time to read it, do so, it's very good, darkly funny.

They should give you something to work with, or at least a few momentary distractions.
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Ricky Gervais is quite good. Have a look at his specials hes got 3 or 4 of em, the ones I know are Animals, Politics and Fame.
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I'm not too clear on what you're getting at, but I recommend you reference, quote - or at least paraphrase - Bill Hick's political comedy - Shock and Awe, Rant in E Minor, Arizona Bay; and Stewart Lee. He is a brilliant British comedian, cutting, political and very intelligent. Look him up, some of his stuff may be a bit focused on Britain, I assume you're not British, but there's stuff you can use.

I'm not sure how intellectual he is considered, I think he writes very well, but look up Jeremy Clarkson's columns, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/ I find them very funny, and if satire is what you're after, those columns should do.

I'd say Bill Bryson's books, espeically The Thunderbolt Kid, Notes From a Big Country and The Lost Continent would be considered quite intellectual comedy.

I'm reading a book called My Name is Legion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Name_Is_Legion_(novel) which is a hefty satire on British politics, press, religion and its people. If you have time to read it, do so, it's very good, darkly funny.

They should give you something to work with, or at least a few momentary distractions.


Now that's a response. I will look into everything you mentioned here. It doesn't have to be from a certain area or era, so I don't care where it's from too badly. Thanks very much. My presentation is still a little gray in some areas, but you've certainly helped.

And yeah, dude, Gervais is hilarious. I love that guy.

EDIT: Hahaha, Fagmalion. That's a win. Maybe it's on YouTube... haha, intellectually satirizing an intellectual comedy. Now that's awesome.
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EDIT: I'm receiving a pleasantly surprising turn out. Keep 'em coming. Oh, if you can suggest plays as well, if you know of any. For example, "Death of a Salesman" is an intellectually comedic play.


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Stewart Lee does very intellectual comedy, and Dylan Moran uses some nice prose at times.

Douglas Adams (the author of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy) would be a great example, I think.
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Intellectual comedy doesn't exist where I'm from. Neither does intellect. I love satire and things like that, but very few people around here understand humor above Family Guy and South Park dick jokes.

Well, South Park is satirical, so I guess that counts as Intellectual Comedy. I'm not so sure about Family Guy, I can't really think of any episodes that do it as well as South Park does.
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