Poll: Learn songs from :
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View poll results: Learn songs from :
Van Halen
34 45%
Joe Satriani
41 55%
Voters: 75.
#1
Before I hear you whining about "no X vs X threads" , this is not about that

So I really have no idea what songs I should learn first... songs from Van Halen or Joe Satriani??

I wanted to post arguments and descriptions about what advantages I would get by doing one first and the other later, but it just confuses me.

Your opinion?
#2
Um, listen and decide for yourself.
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#3
Wat.
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#4
Neither. Transcribe Parker's Donna Lee instead.

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#8
it's a tie they both lose


just kidding satch/van halen fans
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#9
i prefer van halen, but that's my opinion.

in all honesty, you're only going to be able to learn what you WANT to learn, not what other people tell you what you should learn.

but if you really ARE stumped and want to learn them both equally, then go with van halen.
#11
Joe Satriani. He has some easy songs such as Midnight and Starry Night. Van Halen is hard stuff.
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#12
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#13
Quote by Metallica_Man55
i prefer van halen, but that's my opinion.

in all honesty, you're only going to be able to learn what you WANT to learn, not what other people tell you what you should learn.

but if you really ARE stumped and want to learn them both equally, then go with van halen.


Yea I really am freaking out bout wich one to start with...

Van Halen is second/first favorite band... Joe satriani is my second/first favorite guitarist

Can't precise what are my fav bands/guitarists, I love other artists too =[
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#17
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if was me, i would learn what/who tunes i liked best


this.

or learn something from some random third band.
#18
Quote by vulcan422
Buckethead


Well, I am probably going to learn songs from him after those 2 up there that are in the poll....

And I'll probably make a thread in the future asking wich one should I learn songs from.... the one that'll loose here or BucketHead

(buckethead is my fav guitarist with joe satch....)
#19
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Yea I really am freaking out bout wich one to start with...

Van Halen is second/first favorite band... Joe satriani is my second/first favorite guitarist

Can't precise what are my fav bands/guitarists, I love other artists too =[


you shouldn't freak out about it.

you should think about which one you would actually be able to play, or which one you'd want to play more.
#21
I think you should go for Joe Satriani, but that's only because I really prefer his playing and writing compared to Van Halen. Just go for the one you like the most, or both.
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#22
Quote by Metallica_Man55
you shouldn't freak out about it.

you should think about which one you would actually be able to play, or which one you'd want to play more.


Well, I could pretty handle them both.... sure Van Halen solos are really tricky sometimes, Joe is more structured, but Van Halen would help me on my rythm playing and on my tone, also some phrasing. But Joe's songs could boost my phrasings more.

Well maybe I'm considering choosing Van Halen but for the tone only, but I'm still not sure.

And , from what I see on the poll, people like them both too lol
#23
i would go for satch since you'll learn a lot of stuff like cool sweeps, and all the other stuff (too lazy to write techniques) besides im not sure (flame shield on) i think you can learn more theory through satch.
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#24
This may surprise you due to my name but I'd say learn some Van Halen first before tackling Satch. With Van Halen the songs are generally chord orientated then with a solo, but of course doing mainly chords etc first gives you a nice breather before you have to really focus for the solo. I think that the best course to take would be to start with Van Halen as that will kind of ease you into the kind of concentration you need to nail Satch's songs.
Personally I find with Satch you need to have a fair bit of concentration going throughout the whole song because there are generally so many changes and it's not like playing say a 3 or 4 chord verse. You are playing many individual notes which you have to know when to slide, when to hammer on, when to pull off, when to bend etc, say that is just the verse, then you have bridge, chorus and solo to worry about, also as is fairly typical with Satch an outro.
As complete songs Satch's are much more difficult to learn, yes he has some ones which aren't too difficult at all (Ten Words for instance is pretty simple to play and a good one to start off with) but then you have Summer Song/Surfing With The Alien to name 2 which both take a while to learn inside and out. Summer Song inparticular I personally still struggle to nail everytime.


Just noticed you mention tone and phrasing. Learning songs by Satch, and I mean really learning every tiny little thing he does (I mentioned slides etc but even something like how aggressive his picking is) will greatly improve your phrasing as it has done for me.
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#25
Van Halen, Satch is so repetitive. All his songs are just a bunch of

"Oh ****! Here comes the SLIDE, Mothafuc'a! What's next? SLIDE, SLIDE, SQUEAL!!!!!!!!!! TAPPITTY TAPPITTY TAPPITTY"

Literally every single song by satriani is like that. At least Van Halen can change his solos up a bit.
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Van Halen, Satch is so repetitive. All his songs are just a bunch of

"Oh ****! Here comes the SLIDE, Mothafuc'a! What's next? SLIDE, SLIDE, SQUEAL!!!!!!!!!! TAPPITTY TAPPITTY TAPPITTY"

Literally every single song by satriani is like that. At least Van Halen can change his solos up a bit.


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Quote by SurfinWithSatch
This may surprise you due to my name but I'd say learn some Van Halen first before tackling Satch. With Van Halen the songs are generally chord orientated then with a solo, but of course doing mainly chords etc first gives you a nice breather before you have to really focus for the solo. I think that the best course to take would be to start with Van Halen as that will kind of ease you into the kind of concentration you need to nail Satch's songs.
Personally I find with Satch you need to have a fair bit of concentration going throughout the whole song because there are generally so many changes and it's not like playing say a 3 or 4 chord verse. You are playing many individual notes which you have to know when to slide, when to hammer on, when to pull off, when to bend etc, say that is just the verse, then you have bridge, chorus and solo to worry about, also as is fairly typical with Satch an outro.
As complete songs Satch's are much more difficult to learn, yes he has some ones which aren't too difficult at all (Ten Words for instance is pretty simple to play and a good one to start off with) but then you have Summer Song/Surfing With The Alien to name 2 which both take a while to learn inside and out. Summer Song inparticular I personally still struggle to nail everytime.


Just noticed you mention tone and phrasing. Learning songs by Satch, and I mean really learning every tiny little thing he does (I mentioned slides etc but even something like how aggressive his picking is) will greatly improve your phrasing as it has done for me.


This kinda convinces me, anyway the votes are too tight
#28
Quote by woodenbandman
Van Halen, Satch is so repetitive. All his songs are just a bunch of

"Oh ****! Here comes the SLIDE, Mothafuc'a! What's next? SLIDE, SLIDE, SQUEAL!!!!!!!!!! TAPPITTY TAPPITTY TAPPITTY"

Literally every single song by satriani is like that. At least Van Halen can change his solos up a bit.

You just perfectly described eruption. On that note, learn eruption to get the cliche out of the way.
#29
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#30
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Neither. Transcribe Parker's Donna Lee instead.

so true. My friend's been learning it on bass, which is fun to watch since I'm a sax player. He's got it pretty well though, he's got it at a fairly good speed I reckon.
Anyway TS, I'd go with Van Halen just because I find the composition structures and playing more interesting than Satch..