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In my opinion, some of my favorite players from older bands sometimes sound better when younger. I know you don't lose skill with time, but sometimes it seems players lose their touch. Angus Young would be my example; I don't think eh could replicate his guitar work from the late 70's. I havn't seen an Eric Clapton solo really impact me from the last few years of his live work. Do they just not put so much time into soloing?
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#2
They get lazy, I mean if you're payed either way, why work harder...
Just throwing that out there...
#3
I like Clapton's stuff... And as far as Angus Young not being able to replicate his old stuff, I don't see why. AC/DC's all open chords and simple riffs. Robert Plant lost his magic though not guitar but still.
#5
Kirk Hammett?
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#7
wow im sorry but you must've not been really listening to clapton's live stuff. have you seen him live recently? absolutely amazing
#8
Angus Young??? really... hmmm...

have you listened to Black Ice?


i understand hes not going all thunderstruck on us anymore.

but AC/DC has been about rhythm and always has been.

every song is meant to last inside your head.

rock and roll train for example??

that song is just as good as the rest if not, better.

i think that AC/DC still has it.

and yourtalking about losing recording with age,

i saw AC/DC live at wachovia center a week ago.

the opposite of aging....

i don't mean to trash you, just coming from a LARGE Angus Young fan...

he hasn't lost anything, it's not like AC/DC has ever changed beside the singer, and that worked out fairlywell did it not?

u need a better example like uhhh...

METALLICA. perfect example of getting worse as times goes on...
#9
i am a huge satch fan but comparing the soloing on Prof. Satchafunkilis to Surfing with the Alien is like comparing a turd to ice cream. well, i shouldnt make that analogy, the soloing is amazing on the new album, and to be fair itd be damn near impossible to play anything that could really compare to the perfection of Surfing with the Alien

edit: also, am i the only one who thinks, despite the fact that hes 53, satch looks like hes in his mid twenties?
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#10
Jim Root & Mick Thompsons riffs have really gotten ****tier...They're not exactly old but still...Even the subliminal verses album was better than the **** on their newest.

the bass player in green day has also gotten alot ****tier. He was never an extremely technical bass player, but he did come up with some good catchy, bass riffs like Longview. Now everything he seems to play is just root notes.

TS : Angus young isn't the only one in AC/DC that isn't as good as he used to be. Every ****ing AC/DC song I hear now is about rock music, and fights.
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#11
Metallica has gotten worse from their early days, but I think that Death Magnetic was a step in the right direction to getting better. At least it wasn't St. Anger again (strangely, my first Metallica album, that I happen to love but can also recognize the ****tiness of it). I haven't been a big fan of AC/DC for a while, mostly because all of their songs sounded pretty similar, but I do like the guitar work for being rather simple, and easy to learn.
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METALLICA. perfect example of getting worse as times goes on...


yea i admit to that...james has lost his touch
but u cannot say Death Magnetic was crap
it has its moments, like all albums.
#14
I think everyone gets better with time, until a certain point. then you stay the same, until a certain point. then you get slower because you get older and you start to get worse...guys that are around 30 are probably going to be much better than guys around their 60.
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#15
Any 80s band that currently tours with half or less of the original members *cough*GNR*cough* pretty much sucks and is super un-legit.
#16
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Kirk Hammett?


wow...

you should probably go back into the cave that you've been living in if you don't know who kirk hammett is...
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the bass player in green day has also gotten alot ****tier. He was never an extremely technical bass player, but he did come up with some good catchy, bass riffs like Longview. Now everything he seems to play is just root notes.

Their sound has changed since Longview though...
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wow...

you should probably go back into the cave that you've been living in if you don't know who kirk hammett is...

i think u have misinterpretted the reason that that question mark is there for
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wow...

you should probably go back into the cave that you've been living in if you don't know who kirk hammett is...

Wow...

you should probably go back into the cave that you've been living in if you didn't understand that I posted a suggestion...

^Yeah, that.
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Their sound has changed since Longview though...


for the worse, most people would say.

he did have some sweet bass lines on earlier albums, though.
#22
How about working on improving your own technique rather than dissing some players who're getting on in years but could still kick your ass?

If I have to list some though, Metallica; just not the same without Cliff.
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#23
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Angus Young? Really, hmm... have you listened to Black Ice? I understand he's not going all Thunderstruck on us anymore, but AC/DC has been about rhythm and always has been. Every song is meant to last in your head, Rock and Roll Train for example? That song is just as good as the rest, if not better. I think that AC/DC still has it.

Your talking about losing recording with age, I saw AC/DC live at Wachovia Center a week ago, the opposite of aging...

I didn't mean to thrash you, just coming from a LARGE Angus Young fan. He hasn't lost anything, it's not like AC/DC has ever changed anything besides the singer, and that worked out fairly well, did it not?

You need a better example like uhhh... METALLICA. Perfect example of getting worse as times go on...


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for the worse, most people would say.

he did have some sweet bass lines on earlier albums, though.

I think most of their original fans would say that because their still hung up on the whole "sell out" thing.

If American Idiot would have been their first album I think everyone would have liked it more...
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How about working on improving your own technique rather than dissing some players who're getting on in years but could still kick your ass?

If I have to list some though, Metallica; just not the same without Cliff.

The correct answer. I should find one of my picks... I managed to play with one and lose two... I don't know how...

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I think most of their original fans would say that because their still hung up on the whole "sell out" thing.

If American Idiot would have been their first album I think everyone would have liked it more...

... I like all their albums... somewhat...
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#26
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I think most of their original fans would say that because their still hung up on the whole "sell out" thing.

If American Idiot would have been their first album I think everyone would have liked it more...


agreed.

I don' t have anything really against american idiot. I like the title track - it's not a bad album, but in terms of green day's look + commercialism durring the time of that album then yeah, it's a sellout.
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#29
Trust me, I'm a huge ACDC fan. And a bigger Clapton one.

But look at a performance with Derek and The Dominoes or Cream. I don't know, to me he just seems more "on." Maybe its his band? And I am NOT knocking his playing at all, he could still smoke my ass in 3 seconds with a single slinky bend.

Now ACDC is different. Angus has the same feeling, and yes I have listened to Black Ice and the solos are not as technical as Sin City or Whole Lotta Rosie. I honestly believe Angus can't stand up to his old live solos.
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#30
Joe Satriani is 53. He looks the same as he did 20 years ago. What happens is when you are as good as he is at guitar, your abilities create a sphere around you of awesomeness, which would explain the prolonged aging effect that graces him. I saw him live about a month ago. He plays too well.
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#31
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How about working on improving your own technique rather than dissing some players who're getting on in years but could still kick your ass?

If I have to list some though, Metallica; just not the same without Cliff.


How about you take your head out of your ass and realize that guitar players don't practice 24/7 and like to discuss things with other people?

You don't have to be the resident douchebag and critique everybody.

And the whole Metallica factor. I happen to think that Metallica made FINE albums in the 90s.

So it isn't thrash. Big deal? There are good songs on those records and if they weren't by Metallica, most of you people wouldn't even think for a second that they were shitty albums.
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#32
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How about working on improving your own technique rather than dissing some players who're getting on in years but could still kick your ass?

If I have to list some though, Metallica; just not the same without Cliff.



I'M NOT DISSING ANYBODY! And I'm discussing pure technical skills here. Of course they could still smoke me. And haha, I'm practicing an SRV lick at the moment. And this is not rat on Metallica. Not the sound of the music,but the teachnical abilities of the players.

Thank you H4T3BR33D3R.
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#33
yes Metallica hasn't necessarily been their best. but god damn death magnetic was a huge step from st. anger, i was pretty impressed in fact i like DM a lot. don't get me wrong it's no Master of Puppets or Ride the Lighting but it's still pretty good.
#34
hendrix hasn't been so hot lately

and I agree with Young and Hammet (though both are still great)
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#35
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Joe Satriani is 53. He looks the same as he did 20 years ago. What happens is when you are as good as he is at guitar, your abilities create a sphere around you of awesomeness, which would explain the prolonged aging effect that graces him. I saw him live about a month ago. He plays too well.


im hoping he played better solos on his new songs live. the only solo on the album i really think has the potential to stand up to his older stuff is "I Just Wanna Rock"

im sure his playing ability hasnt lessened at all over time, ive seen videos of him playing live from 2006, so i guess he doesnt really belong in this thread, but his recorded solos seem to have gotten less ridiculous over time. surfing with the alien, the entire album, has the fastest, yet still decent sounding solos i think ive ever heard, and it just seems like after that his solos werent as fast, and the fast passages became shorter, like tiny little bursts of speed instead of a prolonged runs that make my jaw drop even after the thousandth time ive heard them.
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#36
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What about Megadeth. They kicked ass continually since Chris Poland was fired. All good musicians in that band. I've heard all their music and it's all perfect.

Listen to rattlehead and amerhikstan. Both from the earliest and lates albums but still perfect.
#37
Slash, I think. The solos in Libertad were appauling.

I liked the album, but I just hated those solos.
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#38
I was always a big Oasis fan when I was younger. They've got progressively worse every album
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#39
Carlos Santana. WTF is up with all the recycled riffs he's doing these days?

Richie Sambora. I hate Bon Jovi anyway but I used to admire Richie's chops.

Lindsey Buckingham. EVERYTHING about him has become sloppy.

Willie Nelson. He needs to get rid of that guitar. It has all the resonance and tone of a strung cardboard box. Plus he doesn't even sing his lines anymore, he just speaks them.

I agree that Zakk's latest stuff has become sloppy compared to his early Ozzy stuff, even though I love Zakk's playing.

Buddy Guy is falling off, too, with his overly distorted blues riffs and WAY WAY out of tune bends.
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#40
Also, Billy Corgan. Sorry, Die Hard Pumpkins fan, but he hasn't had the energy he used to have, and its affecting his guitar work. It could be age, or it could be that he isn't enjoying SP like he used to. Either way, its affecting his guitar work, and he needs to do something about it.
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