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#1
Recently I've been listening to a few bands like DFA1979 and Om, which lack guitar, and they manage to sound extremely good despite their instrumental "handicap".

So I sort of have a band put together, consisting of me (on bass), and two friends on drums and vocals, and we're in the process of searching for a guitarist.

But could we pull off not having one? What would be challenging about it? We really have no desire to do too many covers, if any.
#4
meh it depends, DFA1979 is a pretty electronic band and used synths as well, it depends on the type of music youre playing. But if youre going for hip hop, by all means! lol but seriously, you could probly pull it off, you just have to find your own sound
#5
You could do without a guitar, but the overall sound would just feel empty. Try putting in a thrid sound to your songs, like piano or horn. But bass alone would be hard.
#6
I know a band with only bass, vocals, drums but I don't remember the name
#7
I'm going to try this as well. Sounds like a fun experiment.
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You could do without a guitar, but the overall sound would just feel empty. Try putting in a thrid sound to your songs, like piano or horn. But bass alone would be hard.


It's actually that empty sound that I'm after. Though, I am gonna purchase a 8 string bass (strung like a 12 string guitar) pretty soon so that might help fill out the sound a bit.

However, it'd indeed be cool if we could find a synth or piano player...
#10
Sure, I think it'd work.
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It's actually that empty sound that I'm after. Though, I am gonna purchase a 8 string bass (strung like a 12 string guitar) pretty soon so that might help fill out the sound a bit.

However, it'd indeed be cool if we could find a synth or piano player...

a loop pedal would be very good for you. you can play a little catchy riff at fret 15 and start grooving below it.
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#12
wait did you say that youre gonna have two drummers?

I know some people who say they are going to start a band like this, their plan for the drums is for both of them to be playing the same rhythm, and then play different fills at the same time then come back in at the same time.
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wait did you say that youre gonna have two drummers?


I think he meant 2 friends on drums and vocals respectively.
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when i read scar tissue, hillel slovak (there original guitarist) was suffering from a drug withdrawl and couldnt play the show adn they did just bass, drums and vocals and they said nobody booed, so maybe, itd be a deeper sound but probably could write songs liek that until u get a guitarist
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You could do without a guitar, but the overall sound would just feel empty. Try putting in a thrid sound to your songs, like piano or horn. But bass alone would be hard.


Not true.

Check out the avant garde band "Ruins"

Bass and drums band.

Absolutely incredible.
#17
it could certainly work, if i was you i would get a nice fuzz or overdrive pedal
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#18
Get a distortion pedal, play some sludgy/crusty simple punk.
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#19
Piano would add alot. Check out the new steve winwood stuff, he's got at least one song that's drums, bass, organ. Maybe a little guitar, in the transitions. It could work, dunno how you play, eg. style, influences, etc.
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#20
Actually--my husband I do this all of the time. He's got a great singing voice and he plays drums and I play bass. We were just messing on "Love is the Drug" by Roxy Music, just drums and bass. Yes, we play quite a bit of DFA and Blur influenced fuzz /distortion rock, but we also do extended blues jams and some funkier stuff now.

A looping pedal would be cool though, and I might ask for one for the ol' birthday this year.
#21
You could definetly pull it off, do it like my buddies band which is also just bass and drums. Get a guitar head and pump in some distortion. If you wanna check what his bass is sounding like, www.myspace.com/ttthechronic
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#22
listen to lightning bolt and bassinvaders, neither of those play with a guitarist at all
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listen to lightning bolt and bassinvaders, neither of those play with a guitarist at all


Thank you, Bassinvaders is incredible.

What's interesting about them though is they apparently have like, 3 bass players? Lead, rhythm, and bass... Great sound, though.
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Quote by NorseGodofRock
It's actually that empty sound that I'm after. Though, I am gonna purchase a 8 string bass (strung like a 12 string guitar) pretty soon so that might help fill out the sound a bit.

However, it'd indeed be cool if we could find a synth or piano player...


you could definitely pull it off then. Even though you're after an "empty sound," vocal drums and bass alone is too empty. Adding a keyboardist and getting the 8 string will probably help a lot
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you could definitely pull it off then. Even though you're after an "empty sound," vocal drums and bass alone is too empty. Adding a keyboardist and getting the 8 string will probably help a lot


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#28
me and a friend tryed this

we wrote a jazzy(more like blues really) song about soup.

sounded pretty good.

i think the key is what you play.
it can be hard for an inexperienced player to be in a band like this and not play the same riff to much, i did, that's why we only ever wrote 2 songs.

bass sound is also the bottom line, if your bass sounds bad, you're going to have trouble.
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#29
My band doesn't have a guitarist, and I think we get along fine. Bass chords and double stops are your friend though. One thing I like to do is play a melody higher up on the freeboard while pedaling with an open string or sometimes fretting something on the low b of my schecter.
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My band doesn't have a guitarist, and I think we get along fine. Bass chords and double stops are your friend though. One thing I like to do is play a melody higher up on the freeboard while pedaling with an open string or sometimes fretting something on the low b of my schecter.


Is that you guys in your sig? You sound pretty cool. Time's Up is pretty laid back and I like the double stops and chording in Post Existentialism.

I have a friend in jazz band who plays alto sax... that actually might be a nice addition.
#32
You can do whatever the hell you want. This is music. THERE ARE NO RULES.
#33
I have done it, when I first started my band, but now we've got a guitar player.
Loop pedals can be useful, but they force you to keep on playing over the same loop, where a guitar/piano/2nd bass player can react on what you're playing.

You could always get a piano player if really want no guitar, and be the next ben fold's five :p
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Quote by NorseGodofRock
Is that you guys in your sig? You sound pretty cool. Time's Up is pretty laid back and I like the double stops and chording in Post Existentialism.

I have a friend in jazz band who plays alto sax... that actually might be a nice addition.


Yup, that'd be us. Thanks. I love having a saxophonist in the band, its really a much more versitile instrument then people give it credit for.
#35
Write the songs, then figure out the limitations/what you need
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#36
You can do it, but it'll likely take some creative playing. A 6-string might be helpful, because you can mimic the sound of double-stops and sometimes even power chords on a guitar. With some even more creative playing, you could play with just you, a drummer, and vocals, but it's quite difficult.

Look at how this guy incorporates rhythm-guitar type techniques into his playing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JHqeePBq3I
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#37
I'd advise against an 8 string, that's just my oppinion, but It seems like you can get the same sound with an octave pedal to me; although an 8 string will sound slightly better, the difference is negligible (MY oppinion!) and you can't turn it on/off.

have you heard of MOOG taurus pedals? I tought about getting a similar effect on the cheap using MIDI organ pedals and a synth module.

get your singer to learn to play keys or something!
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you could just get a whole bunch of bassists and do something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXy0hZDIrmY&feature=related


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I'd advise against an 8 string, that's just my oppinion, but It seems like you can get the same sound with an octave pedal to me; although an 8 string will sound slightly better, the difference is negligible (MY oppinion!) and you can't turn it on/off.


I think there's enough difference between an 8 string and an octave pedal to warrant getting an 8 string.

Although I'd skip 8 and go to 12 strings. Sound even better.
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