#1
I'm a realtively new guitar player, I've been playing for about 6 six months now and it's time to get a new axe!!!

I love the sound of AC/DC and GNR so i am set on a gibson or epiphone. i dont have too much money to spend( could stretch to £500) so a high end gibson is way out of my price range. i have been looking at the Gibson SG Special Faded and the Epiphone Les Paul Custom Silverburst!!

i was just after some info and opinions on which would be the better guitar for someone of my standard also if anyone has either of these to let me know what theyre like!!!

Cheers
#2
Go with the Epi, I got the standard LP and it's fantastic. The quality on the lower end Gibsons just aren't worth the money, your mostly paying for the name
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#3
Get the faded SG. Massive quality difference from low-end gibbys to high-end eppys.

Any gibson beats out an Epiphone, save for a few exceptions.
#4
id go with the epiphone so i had more more for a few amp.
what guitar and amp are you using now?
#5
Check out other brands, and get a new amp first.

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Get the faded SG. Massive quality difference from low-end gibbys to high-end eppys.

Any gibson beats out an Epiphone, save for a few exceptions.


The faded SG sucks, I'd rather get a G-400.
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#6
Take a look at Agile LP copies, people around here recommend them. As for between the SG and the Epi, go to Guitar Center or your favorite music store, try them out through an amp that's similar to yours and go from there.
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#7
I'd say a Les Paul if you were dead set on an Epiphone. As far as the specific model, I would recommend the Les Paul Ultra-II, just because it has the nano-mag pickup added, but I don't know if thats out of your price range (its about $800 I think)

Best of Luck!
#8
My amp is only a **** little 10watt amp that came with my guitar!!

i am looking to replace it with a 15watt marshall after i have sorted out a new guitar!!
#9
what amp are you playing through? that will make the biggest difference for your tone. and if you are definatly wanting a new guitar, id go with the epi standard or a agile. if you can afford it, id look at edwards les pauls from japan. they are amazing. i dont know how much they run in euros but they are about 940 shipped american dollars.

i wouldnt go with the 15 watt marshall. there are much better amps for the money. maybe split the 500 euros up between and amp and guitar?
#10
Quote by AngusWaters
My amp is only a **** little 10watt amp that came with my guitar!!

i am looking to replace it with a 15watt marshall after i have sorted out a new guitar!!


The Marshall is a MG.

DON'T DO IT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

Invest in a good amp, you'll see that your current guitar will sound wonderfully well through a good amp.
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#11
Epi Customs are blatant rip-offs. You're paying extra for an arguably prettier version of an LP Standard (which is overpriced already). Epiphone has been having quality problems since the production got moved to China. The pickups they're using currently are the worst I have ever encountered.
If you can get the Gibson within 500 bucks that'd be cool, they sound good for what they cost. But they don't play all that well. I just find the neck uncomfortable and the fretwork and finish often aren't too good. It's not a bad guitar, but it's also not as good as the name on the headstock makes people think.

I think a Yamaha AES 620 should work for you:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_aes620_rb_egitarre.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_aes620_chg.htm

Well made and has nice pickups. The humbucker in the bridge is especially nice.


Keep in mind that a new guitar won't help much unless you have an equally good amp. If you are looking for a drastic sound improvement, check out the better modeling amps in your price range like Vox Valvetronix, Line6 Flextone and Peavey Vypyr. Alternatively, look into small tube amps. In your price range, there are many small rock oriented tube amps like the Blackheart Handsome Devil or Peavey Classic 30.

EDIT: Like the wise man above me said: Avoid cheap Marshalls like the plague. If you want a Marshall, go for a used DSL401, that should be easily affordable with 500 pounds.
#12
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The Marshall is a MG.

DON'T DO IT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

Invest in a good amp, you'll see that your current guitar will sound wonderfully well through a good amp.

+1

You need a new amp far more than you need a new guitar - those 15 watt Marshalls are gash, steer well clear.

However, if you've got £500 to play around with and spend it this way...

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/71400
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/vc15-110/67333

...you will be very, very happy.
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#13
Cheers for the advice guys!!!!

i'm steering closer to the epi lp now and looking at peavey amps i'll just see what i can get for the money!!!!

any more ideas, keep 'em coming i'm still open to 'em
#14
If you want a Les Paul or SG shape you're honestly better off going for a Vintage, they're a lot cheaper but pretty much the same guitar...the Peter Green one sounds better than any Epiphone you'll find though.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/72458
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/72360
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/68737

Choice of amp really depends on how much you know the sound you want, if you only want to play AC/DC and GnR stuff then the Laney VC15 would be perfect. However, if you want something with more variety and some effects to play with, which is probably a good idea seeing as you've only been playing 6 months, go for a modeller like the Peavey Vypyr or Vox Valvetronix series.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/77819
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/vox-ad-30vt/12940

Avoid Marshall MGs and the Line 6 Spider series like the plague.
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#15
definatly go with the laney vc 15 as seagull mentioned. its a great amp and nails the tone you want. and that guitar is a good choice as well for the money. see what other guitars are in your range after the amp.
#16
I own the Gibson Faded SG I bought it mainly because I've wanted an SG since before I started playing and it was the cheapest one I could get. I don't regret buying the guitar, I just wish I had really looked into it before I had bought it, but since I had been playing for either 1 and 1/2 years or 2 and knew nothing beyond the fact that I wanted an SG and that was in my parents price range. This has served me through 2 years of playing and a rough 5 concerts and it's great but it's time for me to get a new axe, of course I plan on keeping the SG but the quality on my next guitar needs to be better. I found that the action was to high (that's when the strings are more taut right?) the pick-ups didn't serve my purpose and it was a generally average guitar, next up Gibson Explorer, Schecter C1 Classic or a yet to be discovered axe
#17
Quote by AngusWaters
Cheers for the advice guys!!!!

i'm steering closer to the epi lp now and looking at peavey amps i'll just see what i can get for the money!!!!

any more ideas, keep 'em coming i'm still open to 'em

You would do best to follow the advice that "steven seagull" is giving you. That's the best piece of advice I can give.

cheers steven
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer