#1
I'm looking for a new bass and i have heard that jazz basses can sound pretty good suiting the hardcore genre (if you buy thicker gauge strings and have a distortion pedal)
so what would be better to do? risk buying the jazz bass or maybe go for something like a Esp ltd bass or a Warwick.
#2
Jazz basses are extrremely versatile. They'll do anything you want and hey, if you want something else later on then you'll still have a bass that'll deliver.

You don't risk anything by going for the Jazz, but you'll probably gain alot.
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#3
our bassists uses a 5 string jazz bass, with heavy strings...
we play in Drop B tuning, and he doesnt uses any pedals or anything... sounds pretty damn good!
#4
if you get the active one you could basically play anything
the regular MIM one is pretty versatile too
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#5
I'm no authority around here, but don't the two single coils pickups lack a significant amount of low end? I'd think a P/J style would work best.
#6
I played a jazz with the two J pickups and it worked better than my Schecter for metal. And if you want to look cool you could slap one of these over the pickups.
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Jazz basses are extrremely versatile. They'll do anything you want and hey, if you want something else later on then you'll still have a bass that'll deliver.

You don't risk anything by going for the Jazz, but you'll probably gain alot.

Well said.
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#8
I agree with everyone here except Mudmen190. J's work for basically everything. Hell, even the guy from Opeth uses one. Someone on the forum (I can't remember who) is in a pop-punk band (I know it's not the same thing) uses a VM 70's Jazz with a SD 1/4lb-er J pickup in the bridge position and plays with a pick. That would work quite well, I think.
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I'm no authority around here, but don't the two single coils pickups lack a significant amount of low end? I'd think a P/J style would work best.

No.


J Pickups give an "overdriven" sounding growl as it is so distortion may not be neccessary.
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#10
Get the Jazz. It'll be a companion for life that you can use for any music you will ever create for as long as you and your bass-playing descendants shall live.
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Get the Jazz. It'll be a companion for life that you can use for any music you will ever create for as long as you and your bass-playing descendants shall live.


Is that a direct quote from the Epistle of St. Jaco, Chapter 5:15?

Seriously, while its not my favourite of the children of Leo Fender, its a highly versatile bass. Until I fell in lust with a Spector 5 string, I came close to buying a Jazz V 24.
#12
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Is that a direct quote from the Epistle of St. Jaco, Chapter 5:15?

Nah. My vintage Stingray is my life-companion bass, so I take my scripture from the Epistle of Saint..... Joe Lally? Even though he did all his recording with a Jazz

But seriously, everybody needs at least one bass spawned of Leo, doesn't matter what it is. You can use them for anything and they last forever. Plus, no matter what type of music you play, you can bring them into a session or practice and nobody will roll their eyes.
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#13
By hardcore you mean, hardcore punk? (I guess some people don't)

Notable Jazz User in Hardcore Punk:

Klaus Flouride - Dead Kennedys
Darryl Jenifer - Bad Brains
Chuck Dukowski - Black Flag
#14
Not all technically "hardcore", but pretty heavy and fast Jazz players nonetheless:

Joe Principe of Rise Against
The new guy in As I Lay Dying
Matt Freeman of Rancid
Liam Wilson of Dillinger Escape Plan frequently uses one
Joe Lally of Fugazi recorded with Jazz basses
Hunter Burgan of AFI
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#15
Think of a Jazz bass as a blank canvas, you can paint whatever you want on it! Just gotta use your imagination.

Other, more "specialised" basses (think Ibanez, ESP, EBMM) are more like paint-by-numbers, you're limited to the picture already on the canvas to what you can paint, but when you paint it, it'll be perfect.

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#16
I jazz bass can do anything and it can do most things better than anything else.

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#18
I have an active reggie hamilton jazz and it can do practically anything i want it to, though my axe of choice will always be my musicman...
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J Pickups give an "overdriven" sounding growl as it is so distortion may not be neccessary.


Are you sure you're not getting confused with P-pups.
I find J-pups give a cleaner, clear sound, where as P-pups give the "overdriven" sounding growl as you describe.


Oh, and to TS: Yes, Jazz basses can be used for hardcore, I know pleanty of bassists that use them in every genre from indie to death metal.
Edit: and distortion isn't really needed IMO


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Are you sure you're not getting confused with P-pups.
I find J-pups give a cleaner, clear sound, where as P-pups give the "overdriven" sounding growl as you describe.


Oh, and to TS: Yes, Jazz basses can be used for hardcore, I know pleanty of bassists that use them in every genre from indie to death metal.
Edit: and distortion isn't really needed IMO

No, definitely not Single coils growl much more than the split pickups.
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#21
If you're gonna play chuggy, metal-er type hardcore, maybe get a different kind. Otherwise the Jazz Bass will sound great for it, plus you'll look classier than any given player with a stereotypical metal-looking bass.
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Think of a Jazz bass as a blank canvas, you can paint whatever you want on it! Just gotta use your imagination.

Other, more "specialised" basses (think Ibanez, ESP, EBMM) are more like paint-by-numbers, you're limited to the picture already on the canvas to what you can paint, but when you paint it, it'll be perfect.


well said jon
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#23
I agree with everyone here except Mudmen190. J's work for basically everything. Hell, even the guy from Opeth uses one. Someone on the forum (I can't remember who) is in a pop-punk band (I know it's not the same thing) uses a VM 70's Jazz with a SD 1/4lb-er J pickup in the bridge position and plays with a pick. That would work quite well, I think.


Perhaps thats me?

Anyways, as my bands not particularily "hardcore" there is definitely a hardcore influence, which comes out a lot in my bass playing (dont listen to our myspace recording for its of terrible quality and its not even my rig). But yeah I have a squier VM with a quarter pounder through a mesa rig. It's bassically dead on for a hardcore tone. I get a old school, Madball-ish sound from it as well as a modern metalcore sound out if it too. It gets an outstanding amount of punch and just enough growl to fit right in with the genre. Jazz basses are the way to go dude. With the right pickups, they can do anything.
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