#1
Just curious because I never really looked into it but what are some of the differences between the old Jackson guitars and new Jacksons nowadays that are made since Jackson was bought by fender?

Never liked fenders...grrr...but I'm set on my next guitar being a Jackson (SL3 soloist namely).


Differences?
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#2
not really sure but i hate fenders, and i have a new jackson dk2m which is my favorite guitar, so i wouldn't worry too much about it
#4
Quote by jake911
iirc, some of the 90's jacksons had really crappy trems.



So is it safe to say Jackson is better off now that Fender has taken over?

And I'd lol if that is true.
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#5
well some say quality dropped off slightly in the really high end jackson stuff after fender took over...
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#6
I used a Jackson from the late 90s for a while there, dunno if fender had taken over or not, but it's pretty good, only a low end one though, so not the best to go by.
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Quoted from someone who knows about Jacksons (at least more than I do):
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Fender has brought QC up. Real Duncans, Active EMGs, better hardware materials, and have fought to try and bring the Custom Shop quality back up. and I have NEVER heard of J/C screwing someone over with warranty work. Hell, a guy on the JCF got his guitar replaced and was the second owner. A totally new instrument. The only other company with that kind of commitment to their product I know of is Carvin. No, the lame ducks of Jackson, at least import wise, are the Akai era ones. The USAs were still nice, but they ran the shop into the ground and it was Fender that felt the effects of that.
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get a dean
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get a dean

not a good idea...

The trems on most of the pro series were CRAP (pot metal knife edges, badbadbad) before fender came in and put hardened steel baseplates on (goodgoodgood). they could use a sharpening though, to really get the trem to respond.
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#12
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not a good idea...


I generally am not a fan of the deans I've tried. Idk you can just FEEL the difference when you pick up like a mid end dean and then play a mid end Jackson or ESP.

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#13
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L.M.F.A.O.

that is AWESOME man!


I played an older Jackson guitar, it was pretty nice... but the owner (my uncle) is a guitar tech so he could make any PoS shine. Srry if my input is not that helpful.

Playing newer Jacksons, they're nice guitars. Compared to the one from the 90s I'd weigh them about even.
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L.M.F.A.O.

that is AWESOME man!


I played an older Jackson guitar, it was pretty nice... but the owner (my uncle) is a guitar tech so he could make any PoS shine. Srry if my input is not that helpful.

Playing newer Jacksons, they're nice guitars. Compared to the one from the 90s I'd weigh them about even.

How so?
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Look at some of the other companies that have been bought out since their inception and you can see a trend in quality. Hamer, BC Rich, Charvel, Steinberger, Dean, and now Jackson. Out of all of these comanies, their early guitars you can't touch under a few grand. There isn't a strong market for companies to mass produce high quality instruments like these companies were famous for. Take Dean for example. Up until the late 80's everything was handmade in Chicago. Even the necks were completely handshaped. Today this would cost too much and wouldn't be a viable option for mass production like it was in the 80's.

Somone said something about the Floyd's having a potmetal baseplate? The baseplates couldn't have been made from potmetal since it's not used for wear applications and it has a very low hardness. The only thing different between the early LFRs from Jackson and the newer ones is the shape of the valley on the posts, not the materials used. Also, LFRs can't have case-hardened pivot points. That's one of the patents that Mr. Rose didn't lend out
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#16
Quote by jake911
iirc, some of the 90's jacksons had really crappy trems.


I once owned an '89 USA Jackson Soloist with Jackson pickups and Jackson LFR. I loved that guitar for many reasons....

-but-

My brand new Japanese made Jackson Soloist SL2H with OFR and Duncans plays so much better. It even sounds better. Don't even mention USA quality control vs. Japanese here, because in my case, my new Solist is flawless. I fought with the action on my old USA model constantly. No contest.
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#17
My 04 USA Jackson had a twisted neck. Took 3 years of fighting fender before they replaced it. Thanks McD if your watching.
#18
So as a whole, what was/is better.

Older Jacksons or Newer Jacksons?
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#20
The USAs are still made in the same factory by the same people. The SL3 is killer.
#21
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Quoted from someone who knows about Jacksons (at least more than I do):

I need to make a clarification on that one though... Jackson did that warranty work under the original owners name (just out right replaced the guitar IIRC). In general, the San Dimas are worth a lot more than the others, but you can still get a plain jane Jackson for between $700-$1000 if you wait for one. The 2D graphics tend to go for more. High end jobs by Mike Learn or Dan Lawrence can go for a lot. The Fender-era are feeling the effects of what happened under Akai ownership in that the company more or less had stopped aging well. Quality has rebounded lately though it seems.

I would say in terms of quality, San Dimas, Ontario, and then Corona/Fender, but all great guitars. I would say the San Dimas are far and away the most collectible though, but that only bears fruit if it is an unusual guitar or a graphic, otherwise it only matters to Jackson people. A lot of people though say one plays just as good as the other, but the value/prestige at least is biased towards the earlier ones. I've played mainly Fender era ones and found them amazing guitars.

FWIW, the import baseplate material and/or manufacturer of the JT580 has changed a lot over the years. I think for awhile there were two vendors. The early 90s Takeuchi are far and away the best, some saying they are near the quality of the JT590s made by Schaller. Now, the Pro/MG series 580s have slightly better baseplate materials, with the JS and X being cheaper. The JT570s (Schaller) and JT500 (unknown vendor) were junk from being poorly made. The newer, high end imports (SL2, RR3, RR5FR) all have Korean Floyds (as do the new production Charvels) but they are made of the same materials... jury is out on quality.