#4
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Doesn't all poetry express ideas?



yes.

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#5
I'm not trying to be a douche, but I don't think idealistic poetry is about ideas. I think its about things that are in their ideal state or something along those lines. You could look at poetry about plato's Theory of Forms, maybe.
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#6
type it into google and see which poets come up. then read through some of their poems.
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#7
Poems are used to make normally boring things seem cool
see with this rhyme I no longer seem like a fool
I type these words with no intent
the structure of it not straight but bent
it makes no sense has no meaning at all
poems about love, bout givin your baby a call
poems of heartache sadness and the downfall of man
about a hot little blond with a sexy tan
but usually they are just a group of words
with a hint of creativity to not sound like a load of turds!

Wat
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#8
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Poems are used to make normally boring things seem cool
see with this rhyme I no longer seem like a fool
I type these words with no intent
the structure of it not straight but bent
it makes no sense has no meaning at all
poems about love, bout givin your baby a call
poems of heartache sadness and the downfall of man
about a hot little blond with a sexy tan
but usually they are just a group of words
with a hint of creativity to not sound like a load of turds!

Wat



actually i quite like it!
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This man is right.


My life in all aspects is going fucking brilliantly, so I just thought I'd offer a cyncial scrap of wisdom, gloat a little, and then leave.
#9
Do you want poems that express ideas, simply. Or do you actualyl want idealistic poetry?
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#11
Why Should We Idly Waste Our Prime - Robert Burns

Why should we idly waste our prime
Repeating our oppressions?
Come rouse to arms! 'Tis now the time
To punish past transgressions.
'Tis said that Kings can do no wrong --
Their murderous deeds deny it,
And, since from us their power is sprung,
We have a right to try it.
Now each true patriot's song shall be: -
'Welcome Death or Libertie!'
2.
Proud Priests and Bishops we'll translate
And canonize as Martyrs;
The guillotine on Peers shall wait;
And Knights shall hang in garters.
Those Despots long have trode us down,
And Judges are their engines:
Such wretched minions of a Crown
Demand the people's vengeance!
To-day 'tis theirs. To-morrow we
Shall don the Cap of Libertie!

3.
The Golden Age we'll then revive:
Each man will be a brother;
In harmony we all shall live,
And share the earth together;
In Virtue train'd, enlighten'd Youth
Will love each fellow-creature;
And future years shall prove the truth
That Man is good by nature:
Then let us toast with three times three
The reign of Peace and Libertie!

THere, a poem ardently supporting the french revolution, regicide and revolution in general.. especially the bolded bi
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#12
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Yeah. Poems that express ideas. I have some Ginsburg in mind. Anybody support this idea?


Hell yeah! If you try "Howl" by Ginsburg, "The Wasteland" by Elliot, or "Finnegan's Wake" by Joyce, you can pretty much take any stance you want as far as its meaning. The beauty of analyzing modernist poetry is that its so open to interpretation because its almost impossible to nail them down to any one thing.

If you want something easy try "In a Station of the Metro" by Ezra Pound and discuss how it reflects his tenets of imagism (that is, his ideal poetry for a while). Another good one would be "I, being born a woman and distressed" by Edna St. Vincent Millay. If you want something kinda political, look at Yeats' "September 1913".

Sorry for all the modernist stuff if it doesn't appeal to you. Its fresh on my mind.