#1
I'm thinking about picking up guitar. I play drumset right now, double bass, & it's starting to bore me.

If i do start playing, I'd probably get this for starters, http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Studio-Electric-Guitar-104298773-i1174173.gc But i'm not sure which amp/pedals i'd get. I love the sound of Zakk Wylde's effects, so i'd want to get pedals that give a sound something like Zakk's.

Any tips on amps or pedals i could get for my situation?

Much thank for any help
#2
Don't get a cheap "temporary" amp like I did save up and get a nice tube or atleast a good SS. Maybe a marshall. The Zakk Wylde might be a good pedal. The Zakk Wylde with the circly thingy might be a cool guitar.
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#3
That guitar is great for starters.

I would suggest you get a Peavey Vypyr or Roland Cube amp. They are modeling amps which means they copy the sounds of the higher priced amps. They come pretty close too the real thing, and are a great price. A 15w, which is a great size for a starter is about $99. or $200 for a 30w. Plus all effects are build in so no need for pedals at all.

DO NOT, buy a Marshall MG, or Line 6 Spider 3. They sound horrible compared to the other two I just mentioned.
#4
I own an Epiphone LP Studio, and I'm happy with it. Since it's solid mahogany, it's a little on the bassy side, if you like that.

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#6
roland cube is always good to start off with i still use it backstage or during practice and whatnot - damn cheap and good quality
as for pedals its preference everyone is always divided on everything - look around for some used ones - digitech, dunlop crybaby are good for wah...i saw this really sweet compressor for cheap but I don't think you'd be interested in that - go to your local shop and check some stuff out so you know what you're paying for
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#7
thanks skizo. as i said, i love the sound of Zakk's effects. so i want my playing to sound like his somewhat
#8
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roland cube is always good to start off with i still use it backstage or during practice and whatnot - damn cheap and good quality
as for pedals its preference everyone is always divided on everything - look around for some used ones - digitech, dunlop crybaby are good for wah...i saw this really sweet compressor for cheap but I don't think you'd be interested in that - go to your local shop and check some stuff out so you know what you're paying for



I own a Roland Cube 15X. I second this, its a good amp.
#10
I used a Cube 30 for the last 2 years, we had one at school, and it is a really good amp. I prefer the Vypyr series now though, between the two I prefer the Vypyr, but either way you win.

That guitar isn't too bad, although I don't know if I'd advise you to get a Studio... they're very hit or miss. You really need to play it first to see if it's any good, but if you're only starting out, then they'll probably all feel the same to you. If you have any friends who have been playing a while, take one with you and get them to try it out.

As for pedals... if you get either of those amps, you won't really need any, but a Dunlop Zakk Wylde Wah might do you good.
#11
thanks for the advice slick. i think i've found my amp, it fits just what i need. as for the guitar, i really think i'm going to get that one. i just love the style.
#12
Quote by Mr. Crowley8
thanks skizo. as i said, i love the sound of Zakk's effects. so i want my playing to sound like his somewhat

Zakk Wylde doesn't really use effects - his guitar tone is pretty straightforward, however his signature sound is all about how he plays. There's no point worrying about it because it'll be a long time before you're in a position to emulate him - buying his signature gear won't make a blind bit of difference, that's just a marketing ploy designed to make money from fanboys with more money than sense.

We already know the knind of tone you're looking for, so give us a definite budget and we'll suggest some suitable startup rigs - don't touch anything with Zakk's name on it, avoid solid state Marshalls like the plague and stay away from the Line 6 Spider series of amps either.
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#13
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thanks skizo. as i said, i love the sound of Zakk's effects. so i want my playing to sound like his somewhat


Steven said Zakk doesn't use effects but I happen to know that a lot of the time he uses a stereo chorus of some kind, his signature OD pedal and a wah with the rocker left in one place to act as a filter.

You're not going to get his tone on a beginner budget though so for now follow Steven's advice.

I will say though that his OD pedal is pretty good if you're looking for a quite a fat sounding boost down the line.
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#14
In my defence I totally based that post on a snippet of an interview I read in a guitar magazine 10 years ago when he said something about preferring to just run straight into the amp
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#16
The Microcube is a cracking starter amp - and because it runs on batteries it's still useful if you ever upgrade.

I wouldn't bother with pedals yet, just buy a guitar and amp - buying too much stuff just gets in the way of learning to play, and the Microcube has built in effects to play with anyway.
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#17
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yeah, i figured that it was having his name in there was more of a marketing thing than it was a ZW personalized thing. for starters i think i'll lean towards this amp- http://www.guitarcenter.com/Roland-Micro-Cube-Combo-Amp-481169-i1175936.gc

as far as a budget for effects, probably somewhere about 200-350.


i'd stay away from the micro cube if you have a budget that allows it. while it's a good amp it lacks the proper EQ that the 15x,20x,30x,60 have. i'd opt for one of those instead if you have the funds.
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#18
no, i'm talking about my budget for effects.. not the amp. i've heard nothing but good about that amp, and i'm just a beginner.. so yeah
#19
Quote by Mr. Crowley8
no, i'm talking about my budget for effects.. not the amp. i've heard nothing but good about that amp, and i'm just a beginner.. so yeah


I definitely agree with Steven about this one: the Cube series all have built in effects so you'd be much better off putting that effects budget into getting either a slightly bigger amp with a proper EQ or a better guitar, pedals just complicate things if you're only starting out.
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For an amp, I can heartily suggest the Vypyr 30. I have it's big brother (the 75) and for the price it's one of the best amps I've seen (and heard) in a long time.
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#22
EQualization. Basically the bass, middle, treble, and presence controls.
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#23
The controls that change everything about your sound and tone pretty much.
Youre gonna need at least a descent EQ control to emulate zakk's sound.
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#24
gotcha, i thought so but wasen't sure. thanks.

edit: how does this pack seem?
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Special-II-Player-Pack-102328770-i1150103.gc

I know it may not be THE BEST STUFF but seriously until i get good, i don't want THE BEST STUFF. so for a beginner who's getting his first guitar, how does it look?
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#25
You'll probably be disappointed in the amp - the little uber-cheap starter amps really do tend to sound kind of farty.

I'd still go with the Microcube as a first amp, it's small, easy to use and has enough effects to make things interesting but not so much going on that it gets in the way of learning. Plus it's portable so even if you're jamming away on a 100 watt monster in 3 years time you can still dust off the Microcube for late night headphone practicing or popping round to parties and barbecues. The Peavey Vypyr 15 would be a great starter amp too, but I personally would go with the Microcube simply for the longevity factor.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Roland-Micro-Cube-Combo-Amp-481169-i1175936.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Peavey-Vypyr-15-15W-1x8-Guitar-Combo-Amp-104922851-i1413605.gc

As far as a guitar goes you could start with a Les Paul shape, or you could always start with something different and treat yourself to a nicer Les Paul-type when you start to get a bit better. You don't need something amazing to start on, and even the crappiest starter guitars are a world away from the beaters people used to have to start on 20 years ago.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Dean-Vendetta-XM-Electric-Guitar-512150-i1147571.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Dean-EVO-XM-Electric-Guitar-519795-i1167516.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Limted-Edition-LP-Special-II-Deluxe-Electric-Guitar-519385-i1169680.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier-by-Fender-Affinity-Series-Stratocaster-Special-Electric-Guitar-102167889-i1146806.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Squier-by-Fender-Affinity-Series-Telecaster-Electric-Guitar-102798634-i1146362.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez-RG120-Electric-Guitar-103576583-i1167511.gc

Those are all decent, useable guitars for starting out on - arguably you don't want to spend too much on your first bits of gear...means you have more left over for when you upgrade.
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#26
I wouldn't go for a Mirco Cube yet. I'd get something a bit bigger, with more effects. At least a 15w. The Micro will get boring after a while.
#27
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I wouldn't go for a Mirco Cube yet. I'd get something a bit bigger, with more effects. At least a 15w. The Micro will get boring after a while.


Which is when you buy a new amp - any small practice amp has limitations that you'll start to notice somewhere down the line, at least the Microcube still has a use when you reach that point.
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#28
thanks Seagull. I definately want to start out with a Les Paul. That's pretty much the only guitar I like besides the Stratocaster. I think i'll just get this for a guitar: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Special-II-Electric-Guitar-100001870-i1149986.gc
and this for an amp: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Roland-Micro-Cube-Combo-Amp-481169-i1175936.gc

thanks for the advice people.

edit: can i put the following on the guitar by myself?
pick guard: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Pickguard-with-Screws-100089268-i1128114.gc
pick guard bracket: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Pickguard-Bracket-100089192-i1129857.gc
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#29
Looks like you linked the same guitar twice. What's the amp? as Seagull said I'd for a micro cube, I use it and it's very good for the price.