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Why do people strive for beauty? I thought about it and beautiful things usually aren't so great. Especially when it comes to people. So what's the big whoop?

Take dogs for example. Yeah, the purebreds look good, but the mutts are stronger. Usually when people discuss genetics they refer to internal DNA symmetry/beauty being reflected in external symmetry/beauty, but doesn't this "mutt theory" disprove this?

Take women. Sure, they can be hot, but hotter ones are usually bitchier. Also less likely to do things for their man?

Hey, I love beautiful things as much as the next person but I'm wondering why people think this way.
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#2
Because that is the way the world and society and the media have told us to think. If something looks good, it is better than something that doesn't look as good. Don't you just hate society?
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#9
something about being visual human beings =\

on a more serious note. there is no given definition of beauty.
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#11
they want to be beautiful because they think it'll make their lives better.

those who have attained beauty often know a bit better, though
#12
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Exactly what I was gonna say.
#14
I'm not talking just about people guise.

Take a computer. I'm sure you know plenty of people (and by people I mean girls) who would choose a laptop by how "pretty" it was. Of course laptops did not exist for the majority of human existence so why would it make evolutionary sense for people to choose beautiful computers?
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they want to be beautiful because they think it'll make their lives better.

those who have attained beauty often know a bit better, though


how do you attain beauty?
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I'm not talking just about people guise.

Take a computer. I'm sure you know plenty of people (and by people I mean girls) who would choose a laptop by how "pretty" it was. Of course laptops did not exist for the majority of human existence so why would it make evolutionary sense for people to choose beautiful computers?


the nicer something looks, the better we will foolishly assume it is? we want what is the best to give us an 'advantage' over others, maybe a survival instinct of somekind? these are hard questions, i'm not a scientist
#17
It's the first line of defense we build around ourselves to keep others from destroying our egos.
#18
people are drawn to aesthetically better looking things. people like to be surrounded by things that dont make their eyes bleed by looking at it.
beauty is pretty much determined by society though.
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#20
because beauty distracts us from the drab nature of life

I enjoy beauty so much. I could look at something I considered beautiful for hours at end
(some females included...)

something to appreciate, nop?
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#21
being beautiful is hard work you know, it takes alot out of me every day. just playing, i am one ugly mother****er. but i can play guitar so i still get laid. 8)
#22
beauty is the mask of the beast
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#24
nobody wants to bone a fat chick, a chick with acne, a girl with greasy hair, a girl with yellow teeth and everything else you can think of. men like to brag about their sexual exploits. people are more tolerable of ugly men than they are of ugly women.
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Not everyone views beauty the same way. People think i have really weird taste in girls, because what i see as beautiful isnt necassarily what most guys consider as hot.

Same goes for a lot of things, from photography and art, to buidling design and stuff. As said before Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Too bad this doesn't apply to idiots.
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#28
I don't strive necessarily for beauty but for perfection. Surely they might go hand in hand.. but for me, it's striving for everything to be perfect. Or even striving to be what everyone wants me to be almost. In my head, what everyone wants out of me is to be blonde, have long skinny legs, be a size 0, be bubbly and cute, wear abercrombie or stuff like that, I don't know. If you're wondering why I feel this way, it's because I feel like that's what every guy wants. I could be wrong, but that's how it feels.
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Beauty>goatse
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I don't strive necessarily for beauty but for perfection. Surely they might go hand in hand.. but for me, it's striving for everything to be perfect. Or even striving to be what everyone wants me to be almost. In my head, what everyone wants out of me is to be blonde, have long skinny legs, be a size 0, be bubbly and cute, wear abercrombie or stuff like that, I don't know. If you're wondering why I feel this way, it's because I feel like that's what every guy wants. I could be wrong, but that's how it feels.

What the hell is bubbly?
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What the hell is bubbly?


LIKE OH. MY. GOSH! << bubbly. fake. uplifting. peppy. valley-girl?
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Obviously, mainstream culture feeds and thrives upon appearances and derives an individual's personal worth solely from them. Why? Why not. Why be content with being unattractive when you don't have to be?

Of course, we've gone too far. You think people with appearance associated disorders such as anorexia, bulimia, and ED-NOS don't KNOW their habits are screwed up? It's because others place so much value on the physique that it distorts the mind, warping perspectives of what we feel is gorgeous. No, it isn't always others' opinions that matter to the appearance obsessed, but our minds have become so cluttered with societal standards that we cannot appreciate our inner beauty, despite kind words from others around us, until we reach our outer goals, which for many of us, will never happen.

Yoshi, as you are female, I'm sure you identify with me when I say it is INCREDIBLY hard for women to succeed in music or performing arts without being, to say the least, slightly attractive. Beauty is respected over skill, as it always has been, infinitely more to devout followers of the mainstream.

...But that is just ideal.

On the middle paragraph
It just bothers me so much when people are that appearance obsessed. If that is what Yoshi is talking about, then I can understand the topic more. (Natural beauty is something in itself. Take this for people, music, pictures. I hate things that are air-brushed and auto-tuned. They bother me. Who cares if you have a blemish or are a fraction of a tone off?) (Yet, I enjoy when people naturally have the qualities that 'looks' obsessive people strive for. I'm not sure on that one. Somewhat superficial on my part? Anyways, I'd rather have a chubby girl than one with an eating disorder (though I'd prefer one that is just naturally thin (something about "late bloomers" as well. I dunno.)))

On the last paragraph, and somewhat being 'asdf'
I think she's pretty
(but that isn't the point of this thread)
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#34
Biologically, things which are beautiful to us are (most of the times) needed for our survival. Like we only eat fruits and vegetables which appear healthy, and a potential mate's physical appearence suggests that wheather they are healthy or not. Of course this does no apply to everything, but mostly this is the case.
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Obviously, mainstream culture feeds and thrives upon appearances and derives an individual's personal worth solely from them. Why? Why not. Why be content with being unattractive when you don't have to be?

Of course, we've gone too far. You think people with appearance associated disorders such as anorexia, bulimia, and ED-NOS don't KNOW their habits are screwed up? It's because others place so much value on the physique that it distorts the mind, warping perspectives of what we feel is gorgeous. No, it isn't always others' opinions that matter to the appearance obsessed, but our minds have become so cluttered with societal standards that we cannot appreciate our inner beauty, despite kind words from others around us, until we reach our outer goals, which for many of us, will never happen.

Yoshi, as you are female, I'm sure you identify with me when I say it is INCREDIBLY hard for women to succeed in music or performing arts without being, to say the least, slightly attractive. Beauty is respected over skill, as it always has been, infinitely more to devout followers of the mainstream.

...But that is just ideal.

That's unfair. Their brains work differently, it isn't societies fault. They'd get hung up on something else otherwise.
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Not to mention that many people who suffer from eating disorders end up depressed and/or with low self-esteem because they realize exactly what they're doing...

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Obviously, mainstream culture feeds and thrives upon appearances and derives an individual's personal worth solely from them. Why? Why not. Why be content with being unattractive when you don't have to be?

Of course, we've gone too far. You think people with appearance associated disorders such as anorexia, bulimia, and ED-NOS don't KNOW their habits are screwed up? It's because others place so much value on the physique that it distorts the mind, warping perspectives of what we feel is gorgeous. No, it isn't always others' opinions that matter to the appearance obsessed, but our minds have become so cluttered with societal standards that we cannot appreciate our inner beauty, despite kind words from others around us, until we reach our outer goals, which for many of us, will never happen.

Yoshi, as you are female, I'm sure you identify with me when I say it is INCREDIBLY hard for women to succeed in music or performing arts without being, to say the least, slightly attractive. Beauty is respected over skill, as it always has been, infinitely more to devout followers of the mainstream.

...But that is just ideal.


Honestly, I might be a special case, BUT, the more skilled she is, the hotter she is.
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#39
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I don't know about that. Everyone is hung up on something, for many weight is a touchy issue.

Keep in mind that people who suffer from bulimia also have changes in brain chemistry. If the serotonin levels are changed, this can cause things like anxiety and obsession. Which could lead to bulimia. Serotonin activity changes during the binge and purge, which would effect the behavior of the person. But, even after bulimics recover, they still have altering serotonin activity.

What percentage of women suffer from bulimia? Not that many. How many women are surrounded by the same things in society? Most of them. Difference in brain operation is a factor. It can't be blamed solely on society, that's unfair.
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Not to mention that many people who suffer from eating disorders end up depressed and/or with low self-esteem because they realize exactly what they're doing...

Which is in part a serotonin problem. I wouldn't say they become depressed because of realizing what they're doing, I imagine it'd be more like it's caused by the same thing.
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#40
humans have become much too materialistic (i think that's the right word, if it's not someone correct me). we care too much about appearances, and not what people are like inside. i think it's sad that society works like that.

another example: like when people buy guitars because they "look cool" but in reality sound bad.
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