#1
I am stumped. I have started recording lately and I just can't get the tone I want into my microphone unless I absolutely crank my amp. I can't do this because of neighbors/roommates. If I leave the volume too low, it sounds muddy and awful. Basically I'm wondering if perhaps a Tubescreamer or something a little cheaper could get me that sweet cranked-tube tone, without me having to crank the amp. I don't play metal and therefore never use my DOD Grunge pedal.

Any ideas?
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#2
What kind of mic are you using? That could be part of the problem as well as how close to the mic you are. Worst case scenario you could pic up a line 6 toneport for 50-100 depending on what version you get but amp models on the computer won't be YOUR tone. Trying backing up/getting closer or maybe a higher end mic.
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#3
Get a power attenuator? Build/buy an isolation cabinet?
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What kind of mic are you using? That could be part of the problem as well as how close to the mic you are. Worst case scenario you could pic up a line 6 toneport for 50-100 depending on what version you get but amp models on the computer won't be YOUR tone. Trying backing up/getting closer or maybe a higher end mic.


I'm using a 57. I also have the one that came with my Fast Track interface which I haven't tried yet. I don't think it's any better.

I've been monitoring the mic and can't seem to find a sweet spot at low volume. Maybe I just need to experiment some more but it seems like I just need to turn my volume up.
#5
You can build an iso cabinet for cheap.
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#6
So I guess my question is, would a tubescreamer, blues driver, something of that sort, get my desired effect? Basically a GOOD sounding overdrive (I can get overdrive on my amp, just not at bedroom levels) without getting the cops called on me? I've never really used an overdrive pedal. I have my grunge pedal, but it is just for metal.
#7
An OD pedal tends to boost the volume, thus pushing the tubes farther. You'd be better off either:

A) buying an attenuator
B) Building/buying an isolation cabinet.
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i use a shure 57 through an Art tube mp preamp connected to my computer and it works great, you may want to buy a preamp.
#13
i think there is a preamp in his interface

and when you record you get the sound from the amp so if you cant get overdrive from it at low volumes, you could buy a new amp that can or get some overdrive pedal to boost the od channel or get a weber attenuator
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I'd recommend a direct box or re-amping your present amp into a separate power amp/cab like Van Halen used to do. The Palmer PDI03 load box/speaker simulator is a good one (exactly what VH used), but costs around $600 US. Palmer makes cheaper direct recording boxes that work incredibly well. Erock503 has one of the $170 direct boxes, so you could pm him. He's very knowledgeable & very helpful. If you have other questions about the PDI03, I have one.
I also use a THD Hot Plate sometimes. It's pretty versatile, since it can be used as an attenuator, or as a load box. You can run your cranked amp's speaker output into the load jack/speaker input of the Hot Plate, & use the Hot Plate's line-out feature (using regular guitar cables) into your FX & then into a separate power amp/cab. The Palmer PDI03 can work like this too, BTW. The THD costs less than half of the Palmer unit, but the Palmer's line-out is killer.
Basically, w/ the re-amping, you get the sound of your cranked amp (un-attenuated real tone) at any volume you like, even at whisper volume. Your cranked amp is not driving the cab, the separate power amp is. Your amp head becomes one big pre-amp.


Edit: I just saw your post balking at the cost of an attenuator. The Palmer direct box may be just what you need. But also, getting something like a THD & additional small power amp (like a $99 Crate Power Block) are long term investments. You can use those things with any amp or cab you ever buy for the rest of your life.
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