#1
As someone who is used to Wizard-II neck (or more correctly, the Wizard II on SA series), what is the benefit of a thick neck, especially for someone with a small hand like I do? (I am really debating whether to go with the C-7 FR due to this)
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Thick as in wide, or thick as in depth?


Thick as in depth – I was asking how thin Schecter C7's necks are, and all my response are that they are Les Paul thick. Unless i am mistaken.

I can see Wide neck has benefits, but not thickness (as in depth)
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#4
I think thick necks are more comfortable. But I play a lot faster on a thin neck. I have big hands though
#5
I have small hands and I still prefer a thick neck. Thin necks give me cramps and just don't feel right. I'd rather play on a baseball bat than a 2x4 is what I'm getting at.
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Well, I just want to know, because I need to debate whether I want an expensive, thin 22-fret neck (Ibanez S7320) or a cheap, thick 24-fret neck (Schecter C7 FR)
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#9
i'm sure there is a difference in sound....i do not have to much experience with really thick, or really thin necks but i am sure the amount of wood makes a difference in sound
#10
I never felt comfortable on a really thin neck. I think it's what feels best to you.
And I also think that the idea that a thin neck enables faster playing is misleading. It's not the arrow, it's the Indian...
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I never felt comfortable on a really thin neck. I think it's what feels best to you.
And I also think that the idea that a thin neck enables faster playing is misleading. It's not the arrow, it's the Indian...

+1. If you play faster on a thin neck, well and good. I cramp up up thin necks, so thicker is better for me. I have big hands too, so reach isn't an issue.
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Well, I just want to know, because I need to debate whether I want an expensive, thin 22-fret neck (Ibanez S7320) or a cheap, thick 24-fret neck (Schecter C7 FR)

As much as I hate to say it, if the Ibanez is fundamentally a better guitar I'd definitely go with that, but I doubt it will be. Try them both, see how you like the necks and then buy whichever you like.
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#13
Thick necks have a solid feeling to them, you can feel them more. Thin necks don't really feel like a guitar. There's a mystical connection between my guitar and my soul when I play on a thick neck. Thin necks feel like nothing. Not a bad thing. It just feels less present. Try them out yourself
#14
There is no such thing as a "benefit of a *neck size here* neck" IMO. I know people who can play like Malmsteen on a Wizard neck, I can't play for crap on one. From the same cue, all they can do on a 50's profile chunky Gibson neck is chords(and even then they often fail with those), and I can shred on those. It really all comes down to what's most comfortable in each players hand, the whole idea of a thin neck being a "fast" neck and making you better 100% of the time without fail is sheer marketing idiocy.
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In that case, should I go for versatility(Schecter C7 FR), or go for stability, control and speed (S7320)?

I have problems with C-7 because of my short kiddy fingers and small hands, but I like it's tone and trem feel better than S7320. Obviously, S7320 just feel natural (since I have SA120) and the trem seems stable, but the 2-less frets made me worry.

The thing is that I know I can sand down the neck with relatively less efforts than adding two frets (close to impossible if not outright impossible)
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i perfer thin necks because thick necks just feel bulky in my hands although i have big hands.
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In that case, should I go for versatility(Schecter C7 FR), or go for stability, control and speed (S7320)?

I have problems with C-7 because of my short kiddy fingers and small hands, but I like it's tone and trem feel better than S7320. Obviously, S7320 just feel natural (since I have SA120) and the trem seems stable, but the 2-less frets made me worry.

The thing is that I know I can sand down the neck with relatively less efforts than adding two frets (close to impossible if not outright impossible)


So as I ask for the question, which would you pick(even relative to your own ability), versatility or control?
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#19
I would get the Ibanez for the unfinished neck. Does the amount of frets really matter? 22 is enough
#20
I've got rather big hands and the thin Ibanez necks makes my hand hurt after awhile. Don't think that thin automatically makes you play any faster. Michael Angelo Batio and Malmsteen play a regular ol' neck and they're speed beasts
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#21
^They also have big hands. I don't. People still mistake me for a high school students when I am already 23. Pus, I am a "typical small Asian"
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Malmsteen's hands aren't that big I don't think. Maybe I'm wrong?
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#23
Not too sure. I wear size 7 shoes, so...
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#24
Preference mainly.
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it doesnt matter to me

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Well if you already own an ibanez you might as well get another as long as you don't have to many issues with the 'feel' of your current one.
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#27
totally personal preference.

if you like the feel of the ibanez necks then go for it, but i personally think a thicker neck offers thicker tone. but i like heavier guitars as I like the solid feel...i've never wanted a light guitar, as although they're fun to play on they feel a bit toyish to me *shrugs* it's just my preference... and i'd rather get used to a thicker neck and be faster when trying out a friends ibby or other thinner necked guitar than be lightning fast on my ibby (if i had one) and jump onto a friends LP and be heaps slower..

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#28
I'd say get the Schecter, simply because you already have a same type guitar as the Ibanez, and that way you'll get used to different kinds of neck which is good so you won't get the problem all these others have of being awesome players but not being able to play **** on a thin neck (or vice versa)
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#29
Just so you know, to me at least, schecter necks feel MUCH thicker than Les paul necks IMO.

Many Schecters feel great but theres always been those one or two at GC that I pick up and feel like im holding an actual basesball bat in my hand.

Never felt a les paul feel like that though.
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Just so you know, to me at least, schecter necks feel MUCH thicker than Les paul necks IMO.

Many Schecters feel great but theres always been those one or two at GC that I pick up and feel like im holding an actual basesball bat in my hand.

Never felt a les paul feel like that though.


Play a '53 and say that, I dare you.


In fact the '58 and '59 necks (The smallest of the big necks) are bigger. They might be thicker than the new Gibson USA rounded profile, but definitely not the reissue profiles.


It's all preference, although some people say that you get a thicker tone and more sustain with a bigger neck.

I'm one of those ignorant people.
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It's all preference, although some people say that you get a thicker tone and more sustain with a bigger neck.
In theory you do on the simple basis that more wood mass = more sustain and more low-end response.

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+1. If you play faster on a thin neck, well and good. I cramp up up thin necks, so thicker is better for me. I have big hands too, so reach isn't an issue.
Same here. My hand cramps up on a Ibanez Wizard II neck, I can't play more than about a minute and a half before I have to stop because it's just too painful to use. On the other hand my '59 Gibson has a pretty thick neck and that's the most comfortable neck I've ever played, I can play faster and better on it for longer than any other neck.



As far as what's best for OP - go to a store, try both guitars out. Stop worrying about what other people prefer or what sounds the best form the tech specs or whatever else; just go out, try them both, buy whichever one that feels and sounds better to you. That's all that ever matters.
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In theory you do on the simple basis that more wood mass = more sustain and more low-end response.

Same here. My hand cramps up on a Ibanez Wizard II neck, I can't play more than about a minute and a half before I have to stop because it's just too painful to use. On the other hand my '59 Gibson has a pretty thick neck and that's the most comfortable neck I've ever played, I can play faster and better on it for longer than any other neck.



I'm going to have to plus one that as well. I can play pretty speedy on big and chunky necks.
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#33
I have an ibanez with a wizard II and went to a store a few months ago and tried the schecter and i didnt even notice or have any problem at all and im 5'6 with pretty small hands. I played just as well as i do on my gutiar. So to me it doesnt really make much of a difference.
#34
I personally like thicker necks. I just think that they are easier to play on.
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I have an ibanez with a wizard II and went to a store a few months ago and tried the schecter and i didnt even notice or have any problem at all and im 5'6 with pretty small hands. I played just as well as i do on my gutiar. So to me it doesnt really make much of a difference.


I hope you are right... In that case I may give C-7 a try (the only dealer in Vancouver do not have it in stock, and the storekeeper don't even know what's a drumstick is...)
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#36
For most people, they will say it has to do with your hand size (Ive got big hands, so thicker is comfortable for me) but there are exceptions. play some les pauls and see if you like it.
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