#1
Hi ....

I've been learning a little bit keyboard lately ...
I noticed that on the keyboard .... notes have different numbers associated with
them depending on the octave like C3 ...C5 etc...

So i was trying to map out the same thing on the guitar neck ....but have no clue where to start ....So I guess what Im trying to ask is ...on the guitar neck

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4753/guitarnecknotesqy6.gif

which C note can be considered as C1 and which one can be considered the highest C octave ....also ..how do you ascend from one note to the next note ? ...

For example : If i was to consider the C on the Low E (10th fret) as the lowest C ...
which one would be the next ? would it be the one on the A string ? (3rd fret) ?
#3
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For example : If i was to consider the C on the Low E (10th fret) as the lowest C
Low E-string 10th fret is D.
#4
Quote by ChrisN
Low E-string 10th fret is D.



true

anyway, from my knowledge thats a C4(no pun :p next one(C5) is an octave higher so the first on B the 5th on G , the 10th on D and so on...next one is also an octave higher so the 10th of the high E string(C6)
#7
C4 is usually considered as the middle C. And the in the guitar finger board this so called middle C is situated on the 3rd fret of the A string, which is the same sound as the C on the 8th fret of the low E string.

And an octave higher C after the middle C is situated on the first fret of the B string. Which is same as the 10 fret of D string and the 5th fret of G string.

And another octave above that C is on the 8th fret of the high E string, which is the same sound as the 13th fret on the B string.

So in EADGBE stardard tunning there are only 4Cs (which are C4 C5, C6 and C7), and the fourth C is on the 20th fret of the high E string.
Last edited by YA89 at Dec 8, 2008,
#8
I'm pretty sure middle C is the 3rd fret of the A string.

As for the other part...?

10th fret of low E is a D. The first C on the low E string is at the 8th fret and it should be enharmonic with the 3rd fret of the A string....

The guitar is pretty unique in its tuning. It's not linear like a piano. I think there are only 3 octaves of the C scale (could be wrong)...

edit: yes I was wrong - there are 4 C's.
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Last edited by Guitartist at Dec 8, 2008,
#9
sorry but the C3 is in 1st fret B string. that's because the guitar is a transposing instrument, so you play what is written an octave higher than what you'd play in say, a piano.

at least i think it is like that. i'm sure the C3 is in the B string 1st fret though
#11
o and the 3rd fret on the A string is the same note as the 8th on the E
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#12
Quote by RCalisto
sorry but the C3 is in 1st fret B string. that's because the guitar is a transposing instrument, so you play what is written an octave higher than what you'd play in say, a piano.

at least i think it is like that. i'm sure the C3 is in the B string 1st fret though



So - the middle C on a piano would be enharmonic with the A string/3rd fret, but if you were transcribing a song from piano to guitar - you'd use the B string/1st fret as the middle C?

Is that correct? Or are you saying that the B string/1st fret is enharmonic with the middle C on a piano?

(I've never actually sat down and compared them...)
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EHX: Big Muff, Metal Muff, Small Stone, POG, 2880
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Morley Bad Horsie II
Keeley Compressor (C4)
Nova Delay
MXR 10-band EQ
#13
that's because the guitar is a transposing instrument, so you play what is written an octave higher than what you'd play in say, a piano.



This. When you see a middle C written on a piano score, the pitch will be that of the first fret B string.


But if you pick up a piece of music for guitar and there is a middle C written on it, you play the third fret A string.


As for the transcribing I'm not really sure.
#14
Quote by Confusius
This. When you see a middle C written on a piano score, the pitch will be that of the first fret B string.


But if you pick up a piece of music for guitar and there is a middle C written on it, you play the third fret A string.


As for the transcribing I'm not really sure.



I get the point ...but is there a reason why its played like that ?

I mean ...that way the guitar would be on a different octave right ?

i guess im confused as to why this is done when you can play a C (the one on the b string) that has the same pitch of that of the middle of a piano
#15
Quote by Guitartist
So - the middle C on a piano would be enharmonic with the A string/3rd fret, but if you were transcribing a song from piano to guitar - you'd use the B string/1st fret as the middle C?

Is that correct? Or are you saying that the B string/1st fret is enharmonic with the middle C on a piano?

(I've never actually sat down and compared them...)



middle C in guitar notation would be the A string 3 fret
but in concert pitch it is B string 1st fret.

this is because of the instrument range. it's quite hard to explain, but that's how it is and matters.
#17
Quote by YA89
C4 is usually considered as the middle C. And the in the guitar finger board this so called middle C is situated on the 3rd fret of the A string, which is the same sound as the C on the 8th fret of the low E string.

And an octave higher C after the middle C is situated on the first fret of the B string. Which is same as the 10 fret of D string and the 5th fret of G string.

And another octave above that C is on the 8th fret of the high E string, which is the same sound as the 13th fret on the B string.

So in EADGBE stardard tunning there are only 4Cs (which are C4 C5, C6 and C7), and the fourth C is on the 20th fret of the high E string.


this is correct
#18
What everyone tried to say in a million words said in one line: guitar is played an octave than is scored.
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#19
The open low-E string is E2. C4 is at the first fret of the second string, but it's notated as if it were C5.
#20
middle C is first fret on the B string.

What you all are forgetting is that the Guitar is writen an octave above how it sounds.
#23
I think we've gotten a thread about this every week for the last two months.
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