#1
is it illegal to make a punk or a rock cover of a pop song without the original artist's permission?? i'm just curious
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#3
I think so because they still own the lyrics
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#4
i had that question too
apparently if u put like "*song* belongs to *band*. I am in no way affiliated with *band*" or something along that line, it gives credit to the artist
to be safe, put that in both the description and in the video itslf somewhere
#6
I'm pretty sure it's only really illegal if you plan on putting it on a CD and selling it. I could be wrong though...
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#7
Lyrics are copyrighted, if the artist is popular. Playing the music is different, I do know that chord progressions can't be copyrighted (then we'd run out of music to write!). Pretty much it depends if anyone important is going to hear it. Small bands do unauthorized covers all the time.

Although once I had a buddy play a show at a venue, and later the venue contacted him to say someone was cracking down on people playing covers without paying royalties, so they had to speak to him. However, he was quickly off the hook when they learned he played an all-original set.

EDIT: Like others said, I wrote what I wrote assuming you'd make money off it (ticket sales).
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#8
Only if you profit from it!
If you don't profit from playing that song then they can't sue for damages 'cause there are no damages!

Like Coldplay making a soft **** version of that Satch song! if it didn't make millions they would have gotten away with it!
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Only if you profit from it!
If you don't profit from playing that song then they can't sue for damages 'cause there are no damages!

Like Coldplay making a soft **** version of that Satch song! if it didn't make millions they would have gotten away with it!


Of course not, because nobody would have heard it and he wouldn't have found out. How many shitty local bands have you ever heard playing Enter Sandman? Meanwhile, a multi-million dollar empire like the WWE wanted to use it for a year and Metallica tried to charge them $13 million.
#10
CoB has made covers of pop songs many times. I doubt that they seek permission from the real artists, they just name them in the credits. But Im not sure.
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Only if you profit from it!
If you don't profit from playing that song then they can't sue for damages 'cause there are no damages!

Like Coldplay making a soft **** version of that Satch song! if it didn't make millions they would have gotten away with it!


Speaking of which, if it goes through and satch wins, that means coldplay has to remove its album from stores and itunes and give all the profits to satch, right???

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#13
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Speaking of which, if it goes through and satch wins, that means coldplay has to remove its album from stores and itunes and give all the profits to satch, right???


That's why Satch doesn't want to settle outside of court!
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Potentually the end of Coldplay!
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#14
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It's not illegal.

Check out the Dead Kennedys' Cover of Rawhide.


But, did they pay roylties for it?

also on the Dead Kennedys' covers check out "I Faught the law"!
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But, did they pay roylties for it?

also on the Dead Kennedys' covers check out "I Faught the law"!


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#16
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But, did they pay roylties for it?


Yes, they would've done.

There was a hoohah a few years ago when a TV program used their cover without paying them a performance royalty, which was subsequently corrected.

EDIT: D'oh! I was thinking about Viva Las Vegas. That's what the hoohah was about. But all the covers would've paid royalties on studio release.
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Only if you profit from it.


This. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. If you record one and release it yourself independently then the artist would only mind if they were a huge dickhead, they don't need your royalty money. If you are just planning on playing it I REALLY wouldn't worry about it, people do that all the time. When was the last time you saw a bar band that only played public domain stuff like 3 Blind Mice and The Wheels on The Bus?
#19
what about CDs such as "pop goes punk"etc.
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#20
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Speaking of which, if it goes through and satch wins, that means coldplay has to remove its album from stores and itunes and give all the profits to satch, right???


No they would just have to give a portion of the prophets to Satch. God I love Satch but he is being a dickhead about this. The melody that sounds similliar is like 30 seconds in If I Could Fly, Jesus.
#21
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CoB has made covers of pop songs many times. I doubt that they seek permission from the real artists, they just name them in the credits. But Im not sure.


Wow, they better watch themselves. I doubt they make enough money to get sued for infringement and save enough for nail polish.
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#22
Ask Coldplay
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#23
you can legally cover whatever you want usually, as long as you credit it properly and pay royalties.
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When was the last time you saw a bar band that only played public domain stuff like 3 Blind Mice and The Wheels on The Bus?

A metal version of The Wheels On The Bus? You, sir, have given me a great idea and for that, I shall consider sharing any potential profist I make from this idea with the hobo down my street.
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No they would just have to give a portion of the prophets to Satch. God I love Satch but he is being a dickhead about this. The melody that sounds similliar is like 30 seconds in If I Could Fly, Jesus.


Speaking of wich, I'm istening to the Mash-up on Youtube right now & If Coldplay & Satch had a brain they would just re-release Viva La Vida/If I could fly as a mash-up & split the profits! It sounds awsome! If you haven't heard it yet,
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=w3kytzHrKpo&feature=related
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#26
Playing it live you shouldn't have to worry because you aren't profiting from the song sale itself but for playing the show. Recording it and selling is where you have to give credit and pay royalties.
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