#1
I have a Martin 00-18 Acoustic that I've been told was from the early 40s or the late 30s. It has a crack on the lower treble side bout on the side, but the crack has been there for as long as I've owned the guitar. It hasn't gotten any bigger and I don't know what has caused it.

I asked David Gauge's how much it'd be to fix it and he said about $500 (he was guessing) if I didn't care about the finish. I believe the lacquer in an acoustic instrument plays a large role in its tone.

Its the best sounding acoustic I've ever played, though it could really do with a set up. I'm pensive about such a costly repair, as well as any negative effects it'd have on the sound of the instruments.

I don't have any pictures of the crack handy, though I do have an irrelevant snap shot of the guitar in its case from a few years ago. I'll try and take some pictures tomorrow.
#2
well its kinda hard to judge from lookin at it, but does it affect the sound of the guitar?
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#3
It's not possible to judge this over the web, but $500,- for a crack repair without cosmetics seems a rather generous honorarium for a humble craftsman such as a luithier. Looking at his site, I get the impression David Gauge is marketing his shop as a top line, very exquisite establishment aimed at the demanding customer who knows quality has a price. What about renting an upright bass for $140,- a day? Surely it'll be be a far better instrument than the one I can rent here for $100,- a day less.

If anyone tells me they'd make an immaculate job of repairing your old Martin I believe it right away. But I also have the feeling you can get the same work done for less if you shop around a bit.

But then again. I really can't tell without actually seeing your guitar. It's just a hunch feeling I get from looking at their site.
#4
If the repair is done right, it shouldn't affect the tone. The crack just needs to be filled in and smoothed out. I think I would get it repaired if I were you. Not everyone is so fortunate to have a gem such as a guitar like a late 1930's Martin hanging around.
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#5
If you actually have a prewar Martin, it's most likely worth a mid-size fortune. Do NOT let your average guitar tech get his hands on it. Take it to someone who knows a lot about repairing vintage instruments. How did you stumble across this bad boy?
#6
I am not expert, but what about preserving the 'integrity' (sounds a little too much hehe) of the guitar? Because I mean, as was pointed out earlier, such a guitar would sell for a lot, isnt it better to leave it as it it? Its kind of an open question really heh cause I havent got a clue
#7
It's good to leave it as is if it's in a perfectly fine condition without and structural problems, but a crack can lead to some not so good things. However, in this case, it hasn't gotten any bigger, so it's not a structural crack. Always safer to at least have it thoroughly looked at though. Fixing a crack shouldn't depreciate the value as long as it's done right.
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#9
I think I would email Martin with this question. They are going to know better than anyone on this site, and this seems like a serious issue.
#10
I inherited this guitar, along with a ton of others, from my dad when he passed away.

However, I'm mostly a bass player, and I don't know much about guitars aside from playing them.

One day I'll post my collection here, but right now, I'm trying to figure out where I left the Martin. I don't feel like digging through acoustic guitar cases today.

Pics soon... hopefully...
#12
Depending on the condition of the guitar it could be worth up to about $30,000 if it is from the 30's. If it's from the 40's it'll be worth substantially less but still worth fixing. If it's a 30's guitar then it's important to take it to a very well respected and well known luthier. If a luthier messes up a fix on a 30,000 instrument it can easily destroy the value of the guitar. Prewar martins are worth more with their cracks fixed properly but a cracked prewar martin is worth more that the same guitar with a shoddy repair job. A well known, well respected luthier will want to do an extra good job on your guitar because it'll give him something to brag about. He will also have the skills and knowledge needed to do exactly what your guitar needs.
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#13
Like I said earlier, email Martin. They will help you with this, and they are more knowledgeable about your situation than anyone else on this site.
#14
The first thing I would do is find out exactly what you have. You need to know when this guitar was made. There is a big difference from late 30s to mid 40s.

Honestly though, either way, I would get it repaired. As others have said, it is absolutely a necessity to make sure you get it repaired by a top notch luthier. You don't want to take this guitar down to guitar center or your local music shop or send it to some guy with a website. You really need to do some research before deciding who to pay for the repair.

Now about the crack. Is the crack in the side of the guitar or in the soundboard? I couldn't quite determine with 100% certainty where the crack is based on your description. Also, does the crack go all the way through the wood? Or is it just a crack in the finish? How long is it? Pictures would be awesome!

Frankly I'd just like to see a bunch of pictures of the guitar anyway
#15
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Frankly I'd just like to see a bunch of pictures of the guitar anyway


Agreed.
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#17
we do love our guitar porn here in the Acoustic & Classical forum
#20
Damn, why is it that I never stumble across the $40K guitars? For the love of God, please post more pictures. No one around here has a guitar like this.
#21
Yeah. I doubt any of us will ever get a prewar Martin.

While we're on the topic of vintage guitars, how are Kalamazoos? I remember Chad(a lot of you guys won't know him since he hasn't been on for a long time now)sold his Seagull and ended up buying a Kalamazoo instead.
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#22
^ Top notch and highly sought after. Kinda rare like the old original National Resonators are now. I could dig having any one of them.
I used to have an old mid-60's Tesco Del Rey electric. The thing was a total tank(meaning heavy as hell) but it was really cool in it's own right. The pickguard was this brushed aluminum jobbie with stripes. The stripes came from it being highly polished for one, then flat, like it was sandblasted, on the next. Each about 1/2inch wide and they went from neck to strap button wise, not side-side. The main color was a dark blood red. Wish I had pics of it. Wish I still had it! Damn pawn shops!!!
#23
I'm trying to locate the cable to my digital camera. Its not in the camera case, which makes my life a hell of a lot harder.

I have a lot of instruments of similar vintage, including a Gibson L7 and a 1942 Gibson J45 Custom.
#24
Now you're just making me sad. (Post some pics up of those instruments too and I won't be sad anymore)
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#25
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Now you're just making me sad. (Post some pics up of those instruments too and I won't be sad anymore)



Here's the L7. No pics of the J45. Yet.

#26
yeah more pics

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#27
^ Now THAT is a beautiful guitar Richard! Love the back of the neck, and front, and, and...lol
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#28


Just putting down all the smileys that describe how I like those pics. There's no drooling one, which is a shame.
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#29
Thanks Dave I have to get rid of the National "Dolian" resonator. as I have only played it once & am to fearful to keep it at home so it is in security lockup. How DUMB so i play a Fender resonator like this pic.



My favorite guitar (at the moment) is my Maton EBG808 "Artist" best $1600 (second hand) I have ever spent.

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