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#81
cheers bellerophon for that- another question:

can you use tone pots as volume pots, just by taking off the capacitor? They look basically the same except for that...
#82
Quote by bjh345
can you use tone pots as volume pots, just by taking off the capacitor? They look basically the same except for that...
at a push you could but they're probably linear taper and you're better off getting a logarithmic (or audio) taper. They aren't expensive (under $10 for a push/pull pot).
#83
The D and W tapers are quite uncommon. D is 'straght-line' audio taper and Icr what the W taper is, but it's the same as one of the controls in the original Russian Big Muff. The volume and tone controls in my Digi RP-7 Valve are both dual-gang W tapers.

edit: I think the W taper is another name for C (reverse-log).
#84
Quote by Invader Jim
So what's the other question? I just see a page of a couple guitars.

If you look at the first guitar, it has four pickups two duncan mini humbuckers and two lacesensors,my question is how did they wire it.
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#85
@edge11

We'd need to know what switching options they used to know how they wired it up. They could have just put the SD's in series with the Lace sensors on a 3way and the '2 way sound variation' switch could do anything.
#86
Quote by Invader Jim
The D and W tapers are quite uncommon. D is 'straght-line' audio taper and Icr what the W taper is, but it's the same as one of the controls in the original Russian Big Muff. The volume and tone controls in my Digi RP-7 Valve are both dual-gang W tapers.

edit: I think the W taper is another name for C (reverse-log).


Thanks, Jim!

So, basically any pot would do the trick, but it will not react like Satch's. The changes in volume/tone will be different as you rotate the knob (one will get cranked up earlier, the other later and such)???
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#87
Warpo: Yeah, but the difference is negligable imho. Unless you have some crazy god-like hearing, it's just tone mojo to me...

edge: I'll have to get back to you. Time's a factor...
#88
I didn't want to make a new thread for this. It's an idiot question, but I feel i have to ask it.

I want to put some simple LEDs in a guitar. Probably either 2 or 4 of them. I just need to know what I need t owire them with. Obviously I touch the two wires from the LED to a 9v battery and I get light, but what do I use to extend these? Just normal wire?

Also I wanted to use a switch to turn them/the battery on and off. Possible?
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Fender Thinline Telecaster Deluxe

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#89
I made this diagram a long time ago. Yes, use normal wire. BTW, this'll also go on the front page.



Use w/e values for the resistors you want. Lower value=brighter. Don't go lower than 1k. I fing that 1k is a good value. Everytime I use a 2k2, I barely get anything....

EDIT: More about tapers: It's also worth noting in the US 'A' is log and 'B' is linear, but in EU 'A' is linear and 'B' is log.

'C' (and I think 'W') are reverse-log and 'D' is "straight-line" log.

I've also seen wierd **** like 'G' and 'K'.
Last edited by Invader Jim at Dec 24, 2008,
#90
ALright, I feel like a massive noob, but I am having a lot of trouble deciphering these schematics (specifically the EMG ones). Is there a kind-hearted soul who can draw for me a schematic for the following?:
HSH configuration, using EMG 85 on neck, Fender single coil in middle, and an EMG passive on bridge, with one volume pot and one tone pot, a 5 way selector, and the 18 V mod for the 85.

Sorry, I am just really really confused.
#91
Quote by Invader Jim
I made this diagram a long time ago. Yes, use normal wire. BTW, this'll also go on the front page.



Use w/e values for the resistors you want. Lower value=brighter. Don't go lower than 1k. I fing that 1k is a good value. Everytime I use a 2k2, I barely get anything....


Alright that makes sense. How many lights should one 9v battery light?
Gear
Fender Thinline Telecaster Deluxe

1983 Aria Pro II XX Deluxe Flying V

2007 S101 EGU34

1963 Kay Vanguard

1964 Kay Vanguard

AXL Badwater SRO

Hondo Strat

1974 Acoustic(brand) 134 4x10 combo

Epiphone Valve Jr.
#92
@Prisoner5

Have you checked out the faq's on the EMG website? They advise against mixing actives and passives.
#93
Quote by bellerophon
@Prisoner5

Have you checked out the faq's on the EMG website? They advise against mixing actives and passives.


Yea, i did, but I got a fairly cheap passive and i dont wanna dish out another 100 for an active immediately. i think their real issue with it was that the volume pot would effect the avtive more, but that doesnt matter much to me.
#94
Wiring together actives and passives is a pain in the balls. It requires lots of parts and can get kinda expensive.. So you'll need 1 pot for the passives and 1 for the active, a 3-way switch for the passives and a seperate switch for the active (I'm not sure that'd work for actives though; idk if actives like have the hot grounded like passives).

If you still want a diagram, tell me and give me awhile to draw it up.

Chuck: Not sure. As many as you want, I guess. Probably 10 per battery is a good number.
#95
Invader Jim since people ask about mixing Active and passive pickups alot you might want to add this to the first page. It's easier than trying to explain it everytime someone ask about it.

This from EMG's website.
Can I mix EMG's with passive pickups?
It is possible to mix EMG's with passive pickups.
There are three possible wiring configurations; one is better than the other two.

1.Use the high impedance (250K-500K) volume and tone controls.
The problem is that the high impedance controls act more like a switch to the EMG's.
The passive pickups, however, will work fine.
If you have a guitar with two pickups and two volume pots, with a three-way switch, there is another alternative.
Use the 25K pots for the EMG, and the 250K or 500k pots for the passive pickup.
This way you can use one or the other with no adverse affects,
but with the switch in the middle position the passive pickup will have reduced gain and response.

2.Use the low-impedance (25K) volume and tone controls provided with the EMG's.
The problem here is that the passive pickups will suffer a reduction in gain and loss of high-frequency response.

3.This is the best alternative.
Install an EMG-PA-2 on the passive pickups. There are two benefits to doing this.
With the trimpot on the PA-2, you can adjust the gain of the passive pickups to match the EMG's.
The PA-2 acts as an impedance matching device so you can use the low-impedance EMG controls (25K) without affecting the tone
of the passive pickups.
You will also be able to use other EMG accessory circuits such as the SPC, RPC, EXB, EXG, etc.
For this application, we recommend ordering the PA-2 without the switch for easy installation on the inside of a guitar.
#96
Quote by Invader Jim
Wiring together actives and passives is a pain in the balls. It requires lots of parts and can get kinda expensive.. So you'll need 1 pot for the passives and 1 for the active, a 3-way switch for the passives and a seperate switch for the active (I'm not sure that'd work for actives though; idk if actives like have the hot grounded like passives).

If you still want a diagram, tell me and give me awhile to draw it up.

Chuck: Not sure. As many as you want, I guess. Probably 10 per battery is a good number.



Ah, screw it then. I'll have to dish out a bit more cash and put on another active...damn. In that case, could you give me the wiring diagram, only replace the passive with an active and then show me how to wire it so I could turn the 18v mod on and off for the 85. Thanks.
#98
Savage: Wire it just like two normal guitars, but instead of running the hot wires from the volume pots to seperate jacks, wire them to a 3-way (or 2-way) switch and to one jack. That should do it.

Prisoner: What are the pups you'll be using?
Last edited by Invader Jim at Dec 25, 2008,
#99
does any one know how to wire a double neck with 4 humbuckers, 3 x 3 way toggle switches, 1 output and 4 pots. I have searched for hours but i cant find anything. If some one can explain this to me and has a easy to follow diagram or instructions.
#100
I got a double neck kit today and it didnt come with instructions. Im sorry could you explain that so it's a little simpler. Thanks
#102
My favorite way to wire a HSH configuration, which gives an incredible array of choices, is as follows..... Install a 5-way switch and configure it as a standard Strat switch which is...
1 - Neck
2 - Neck & Middle
3 - Middle
4 - Middle & Bridge
5 - Bridge

Then, install 2 more switches. These can be toggles or push-pull pots. These 2 switches do the following....

- One switch does a coil-cut function, converting the humbuckers into single-coils.

- The other switch (combine switch) allows you to turn the neck and bridge pickups on simultaneously. This is the "Les-Paul with the switch in the middle position" sound when you're in Humbucker mode. This setup gives you all the Les Paul type of sounds and all the Strat type of sounds. Also, in single-coil mode, using the combine switch to turn on the neck and bridge single-coils sounds a lot like a Tele in the middle switch position. Additionally, you get some new sounds which are... All 3 pickups on a the same time, either in the Humbucker mode or Single-Coil mode. This is a really fat sound. This occurs in either mode (single-coil or humbucker) with the second switch in the "combine" mode and the 5-way switch in position 2 or 4.


I found that description on another site but the dude was not kind enough to provide a wiring diagram, anyone have one?
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#104
Hey, I'm very new to the whole wiring thing so go easy on me.

I want to put a HSH configuration into my Tele and as I'm a Seymour Duncan man those are what I'd be using. So of course i checked out the link on the 1st page and found the diagram for a:

HSH, 1 Volume, 1 Tone, 5 way

this is the closest thing (i think) to what i actually wanted which was a:

HSH, 1 Volume, 2 Tone, 5 Way

i couldn't find the diagram for this.....and as I said I'm new to wiring I'm left to believe that it isn't possible or that there's something I don't know about.

So any UG'er want to lend me a hand and explain any ways of doing what I wanted?
Last edited by Axe Samurai at Dec 27, 2008,
#105
Just ignore the second tone pot and wire the 1st (only) tone pot to the same lug of the volume pot that the switch 'commons' are on instead of where the pup goes to the switch.

Still with me?
#106
Quote by Invader Jim
Just ignore the second tone pot and wire the 1st (only) tone pot to the same lug of the volume pot that the switch 'commons' are on instead of where the pup goes to the switch.

Still with me?


Yeah I think so. so the 1 tone knob would take on the role of being the control for all the pups? Sounds simpler really :P as long as I'm understanding it right. Is it the wiring I was being shown in the 1st diagram I looked at?:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=HSH_1v_1t_5w

Also cheers for the quick reply
Last edited by Axe Samurai at Dec 27, 2008,
#107
Quote by Axe Samurai
I want to put a HSH configuration into my Tele and as I'm a Seymour Duncan man those are what I'd be using. So of course i checked out the link on the 1st page and found the diagram for a:

HSH, 1 Volume, 1 Tone, 5 way

this is the closest thing (i think) to what i actually wanted which was a:

HSH, 1 Volume, 2 Tone, 5 Way

i couldn't find the diagram for this.....
From what I understand you want a HSH 1V, 2T, 5way in your tele. There's a diagram here from SD (it was under the strat section though)

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=lilhum_sing_lilhum_1v_2t_5

Ignore the fact the humbuckers here are SC size, it's the wires that count. The problem you'll have is most tele cavities will struggle to fit 3 control pots and a 5way blade switch.

Hope that helps.
#108
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3310/wiringyz8.jpg

I've read through a lot of diagrams, and experimented by just trial and error, and I cant figure it out... Can someone please just draw lines to show me what goes where? lol

The red wires coming from the single coils are actually white, but I made them red in the pic because well, white on a white backround doesn't really stick out lol

Also, I haven't really seen any descriptions of a 5 way switch like this, all eight connectors are in one line, not offset from each other like most of the diagrams show.
#109
Hiby, did you look at the switches on page one, post 2 of this thread? Is yours the far right one?

EDIT: One day I'll type the as 'the' not teh. Until then I'll just edit the **** out of my posts...
#110
There's a pinout of that switch in the second post (under "IMPORT"). You want an HSS, 1v, 1t, 5way setup? Seymour Duncan has a diagram for that. Matter of fact, it's 5 posts up.
#111
I did see that import pic, but for whatever reason, I didn't see the "5 way" part of the pic :S

Anyways, the B M and N are obvious, but what does the C stand for? I'm guessing it gets attached to the capacitor?

Also, I followed the HSS 1v, 1t, 5 way on SD's site, and it didn't work... probably because I was trying to interpret a different 5 way switch pinout lol
#112
The c is for common. Its the terminal always in contact with any of the other terminals via the switching mechanism, or the short version= 'hot out'. Use the SD diagram now you know the positions on your switch.
#113
Hot out... okie, thanks

I'll hopefully get that done in a few hours... /pray
#115
Well, it shouldn't take me longer than 20 or 30 mins, but I've been busy as hell the last few days :P
#116
nvm figured my question out allready
Last edited by cookiez at Dec 29, 2008,
#118
Hey Jim, might want to add some stuff to the front about the jimmy page wiring setup and some of the improvements/variations on it. There was a link that I can't find showing some good stuff on it.
Seems to be asked about a bit.
#120
can someone please answer my question from a few pages back? it's really kinda bothering me that I can't find an answer
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