#1
so to all UK uni graduates/3rd years etc, what would you say is the difference in workload etc between the work you need to do to get a first and the work you need to do to get a 2.1?

i'm just interested to see what my next couple of years are going to be like in terms of work
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I thought you meant gettng a fist...

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#3
In first year there's no difference - chances are that if you've done a lot of the stuff in secondary school you'll get good marks. After that I dunno :P

I'd expect the workload to start to rise in second year. If you're out of your depth, however, you'll know about it very quickly.
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#4
Depends on your course really.
If its something with relatively straightforward answers or definatively 'correct' answers (business, maths, accounting) its not too bad (but still fairly hard).
Essay writing and argumentative courses (sociology, law etc.) have very high standards for a first.
There it mostly depends on the lecturer and your ability to argue a point.
#5
Let me put it this way: it's 70%+ to get a first down here.

Let me put it into perspective: a 75%+ essay is considered publishable.


Work your tits off.
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#7
There is quite a lot of difference between a first and a 2:1 on my course, I'm hoping for a 2:1.
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There is quite a lot of difference between a first and a 2:1 on my course, I'm hoping for a 2:1.


what course are you doing?
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i'm doing economics
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#11
I'm in my final year now. In the library... on the internet

I would say you have to do an awful lot more work if its anything like here. Learning is fun.

Depends on what you're studying though, I guess
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#12
Something which differentiates a 2:1 from a 1st is the ability to other issues that aren't even mentioned as well as better analysis of the problem question. That's really all there is to it.
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#13
Getting a first is pretty tough, i'm on the 3rd year of my masters, and holding a decent 2:1 score, i don't think i'd have any sort of social life if i tried to work for a first, this might just be engineering though
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#14
My bro was 2 points off a first, and it can make little difference.

Depends what you have done. If you are at that level you usually always do tests and stuff after Uni anyway, so...
#15
It depends on how intelligent/naturally hard working etc you are....

I'm in my 3rd year of psychology and I'm well into a first with a good average so far this year....depending on your course you only need to work hard at certain points, I worked my ass off in 3rd term last year (10 hours a day in the library) but I did piss all for the rest of the year and it paid off.......

Oh, and if you have to do a dissertation get started early, mine is 12,000 words and counts for 3 of my 16 modules, and so far it's looking like I'm gonna get a first for that....

A first is quite easily doable if you enjoy your course, cause then working is much less of a chore!

Final point, first year is piss easy and in pretty much every uni in the UK it doesn't actually count to your final mark.
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I would say you have to do an awful lot more work if its anything like here. Learning is fun.

Depends on what you're studying though, I guess

at least half of this library are on bebo/message boards.


Ya to get a first is pretty difficult in comparison to the effort needed for a 2.1. I'm aiming for a first though.
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what course are you doing?

Geography MA, in my fourth year honours (four year system in Scotland), my dissertations due in next week

If you put in a lot of effort, firsts are obviously attainable, but I just don't have that level of commitment I guess. The people who are going to get firsts in the course are fairly obvious to me, some people are just head and shoulders above others intellectually.
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Stalk you?

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#20
My thoughts on this is that the jump between a 2:1 and a 2:2 is bigger than between a 2:1 and a first. In my uni, if you don't do any background reading, or read around the subject and don't show evidence for it, you can't get higher than 59%, which is a 2:2. If you can get a 2:1, you certainly can get a first- it's just about pushing the boat out a little further.
#21
On my course you got a 2:2 if you learned what was taught and understood it.

2:1 if you learned what was taught, understood it and augmented it with relevant external reading

1st class if you learned what was taught, understood it and augmented it extensively with relevant external reading.

However that's only in regard to the exams, obviously if you got 5 1st level exam scores but your dissertation, disertation presentation, Honours project report and viva all went down shit creek then you're not going to get a 1st.