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#1
Me and my buddy are going to get a bass for our recording project. We something decent, not something as crappy as a Squire. Not looking for brand names. I was cheking out some SXs at Rondo. Are they at least half decent? Thanks
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#2
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Me and my buddy are going to get a bass for our recording project. We something decent, not something as crappy as a Squire. Not looking for brand names. I was cheking out some SXs at Rondo. Are they at least half decent? Thanks


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Me and my buddy are going to get a bass for our recording project. We something decent, not something as crappy as a Squire. Not looking for brand names. I was cheking out some SXs at Rondo. Are they at least half decent? Thanks


You are aware that squire basses are damn good for the price?
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#5
Either go for a Squire Vintage Modified Jazz bass or Ibanez GSR200. Both are very versatile and incredibly good value for the price.
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Either go for a Squire Vintage Modified Jazz bass or Ibanez GSR200. Both are very versatile and incredibly good value for the price.

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#7
Squier guitars and Squier basses are totally different in terms of quality. I vote for the Vintage Modified Jazz, it looks sexy and sounds good.
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#9
Peavey Millenium BXP perhaps?
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#10
SX basses are good for the money. I like the Squier VM Precision bass. It retails at $250.

If you don't mind buying used, how about a MIM Fender.
#11
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the gsr200 is amazing, i have one
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#14
I hate the GSR200, personally- and a lot of Ibanez basses. They just feel like 'failed guitarist's' basses to me.
#15
^ Agreed on the '200, though for different reasons. There's two GSR200s in our practice area right now, and for the most part the tone from both is one of the most generic things I've ever heard. The muddy preamp doesn't help, and neither does the plain look of it. What I will give them is that they are built relatively well and feel very good...but it just doesn't make up for that lack of personality.

And really guys, you should at least ask what type of music the TS is playing before spouting your favorite brand at him.

By the way, TS, Rondo's basses are fine. They're made of much better wood than most starter basses and have excellent tone. Go for and LTD series one of you decide to buy from them, it's leagues above the rest of them.
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#16
^ Good idea. I'll be playing alternative, need a midrage(ish) bass that can handle some overdrive, and chorus every now and then. Any more suggestions?
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#17
Midrange as in tone?

Alternative is a pretty broad term...you could be describing something like RATM, or something like The Cure. Name some bands maybe?

That said, I'm thinking a passive P/J would go nicely with either one. This one looks like it would fit well. (then again, what doesn't a P/J fit?)
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#18
a GSR200 is way better than that POS SX.

it sounds generic? IMO, generic is a standard passive jazz or precision, that's why I recommend these kinda basses. they make a generic tone, everyone makes a tone they will like from it, some make tones they love. nobody who isn't feeling open minded will hate the tone of a Fender.

the GSR200 is a bit generic, that generic active sound. I wont deny. but if the kid listens to alternative, a generic active sound might be just his thing while he figures the rest out.
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#19
The SX is fine...I don't see what the big opposition to them is.

I've yet to see an alternative band, be it rock or metal, consistently use something with a "generic active sound". The closest I've seen is a Spector, and those are well-known for their distinctive smooth buzz-growl thing. I'm not saying it hasn't been done, but I looked at every band I could find that could be labeled "alternative" for like an hour to get an Idea of what to post and didn't see one at all. Generally what I saw was a P-style tone, a Gibson tone, or something with quite a bit of high-mid growl...maye the occasional J bass. The 200 isn't too good at any of those. Maybe the GSR190 would be better? It's the same bass, but passive. Never played one, though, so I can't comment.

That said, if he's playing alternative metal, the GSR200 strangely can mimic a MM tone...I've yet to understand this, but with the preamp all the way off and the J pup nearly(but not completely) soloed, it can. He'd probably do fine with it there. The GSR100EX would to well too.
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#20
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I've yet to see an alternative band, be it rock or metal, consistently use something with a "generic active sound". The closest I've seen is a Spector, and those are well-known for their distinctive smooth buzz-growl thing. I'm not saying it hasn't been done, but I looked at every band I could find that could be labeled "alternative" for like an hour to get an Idea of what to post and didn't see one at all. Generally what I saw was a P-style tone, a Gibson tone, or something with quite a bit of mid-growl...none of which the 200 are good at. Maybe the GSR190 would be better?

really?
I've found it pretty effective at all of them.
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#21
It can do them, yes, but it's not good at them like a P/J bass should be. It sounds more like something with soapbars. The main problem is that preamp...it sucks the tone right out of the thing. You can get a decent growl with it sometimes, but on most settings it's just really indistinct. It's not that it's muddy, but like I said before it just lacks character. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not sating it's a bad bass, but you have to really know how to work it to get it to do stuff, and there are some things it's just not good at.
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#23
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^ Agreed on the '200, though for different reasons. There's two GSR200s in our practice area right now, and for the most part the tone from both is one of the most generic things I've ever heard. The muddy preamp doesn't help, and neither does the plain look of it. What I will give them is that they are built relatively well and feel very good...but it just doesn't make up for that lack of personality.

And really guys, you should at least ask what type of music the TS is playing before spouting your favorite brand at him.

By the way, TS, Rondo's basses are fine. They're made of much better wood than most starter basses and have excellent tone. Go for and LTD series one of you decide to buy from them, it's leagues above the rest of them.



yea thats what i look for in my bass... personality and i look for emotion to... cant be playing a bass without personality wtf??? its to learn on!!!!!! it doesnt need a personality!
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That one's a good choice, I'd almost forgotten about it. Nice find.

I'm standing by the SX, though, at least until the TS comes back and explains what exactly he's playing. It sounds darn near exactly like a 70's Fender P, which is perfect for alternative rock.
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It can do them, yes, but it's not good at them. The main problem is that preamp...it sucks the tone right out of the thing. You can get a decent growl with it sometimes, but on most settings it's just really indistinct. It's not that it's muddy, but like I said before it just lacks character. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not sating it's a bad bass, but you have to really know how to work it to get it to do stuff, and there are some things it's just not good at.

I disagree. this bass does nothing perfectly, but it can do anything pretty good. it even can do that wall of mud Gibson thing sometimes. with some tweaking and chorus, it can get a chimey Jaco, with some twisting, it can get a great middy split coil precision thing.
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#26
Hmm...

What strings are you using? There's got to be some reason for the differences we're hearing. One of the ones here is strung BEAD with EB Slinkies, though I've played it with EADG d'addarrio steels. The other has Dean Markley blue steels.
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roto, used EB slinky before along with the stock Elixers. also tried some Fenders, I was not happy to find the remnant of my callous attached to the string.

it was worst sounding with the EB and the Fender, though with the Fenders it was better at sounding vintage-countryish. the rotos were awesome. they played perfectly and I believe give that bass it's full potential.

I've never ben enamored with Dean Markley, and feel that D'addario is best when combined with soapbars.

it may also be something to do with what that ol fogey trav3n or something, I always use monster cables. and an AB50 amp.
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also tried some Fenders, I was not happy to find the remnant of my callous attached to the string.

I feel your pain, my fiver had Fender stockers on it when I got it. The B was horrible.

This makes more sense now. Roto's are bright, and the AB50 has the Acoustic tone, whereas I've been playing through a Trace-Elliott AH400SMX (mostly with the tube pre) and a front ported 210. (Also used a Peavey Basic 40 and my Hartke A25) I can see your setup working a lot better with it. I'll have to try it through my Carvin with some decent volume behind it.

edit: man...this thread has gotten way of track. Where the heck is the TS?
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#29
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Midrange as in tone?

Alternative is a pretty broad term...you could be describing something like RATM, or something like The Cure. Name some bands maybe?

That said, I'm thinking a passive P/J would go nicely with either one. This one looks like it would fit well. (then again, what doesn't a P/J fit?)

Yeah like The Cure, The Smiths, Stone Roses, Joy Division, New Order, stuff like that.
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#30
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Yeah like The Cure, The Smiths, Stone Roses, Joy Division, New Order, stuff like that.

ideally, you'll actually want a gibby style bass, like a Rivioli, Grabber or whatnot. I know the guy from the cure rocked the gibby hollowbody, the guy from joy division rocked the rickenbacker, the smiths bassist used fenders...

personally, I'd suggest you go with the squier. It'll get your closer to that passive, flabby flunky bass tone of the 80's underground.
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#31
Yeah I think this is one of the few times that the bass forum will actually recommend a Gibson.

Also, I played a Gretsch G2202 earlier today. It's not incredibly versatile, but it's well made, feels good, and will definitely get the one you're looking for. Plus, it doesn't neck dive.

Not a bad looker either. edit: bass porn!
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#32
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#33
I have the MB-5, it's a good bass bit it definitely doesn't have the tone he's going for.
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I have the MB-5, it's a good bass bit it definitely doesn't have the tone he's going for.

I missed the tone he was going for. My bad, good luck bassyboy aka TS.
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#35
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ideally, you'll actually want a gibby style bass, like a Rivioli, Grabber or whatnot. I know the guy from the cure rocked the gibby hollowbody, the guy from joy division rocked the rickenbacker, the smiths bassist used fenders...

personally, I'd suggest you go with the squier. It'll get your closer to that passive, flabby flunky bass tone of the 80's underground.

So would you recommend a Jazz or a P? Also, is there a big difference between the Squier standard and the VM?

Thanks to everyone for posting
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#36
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So would you recommend a Jazz or a P? Also, is there a big difference between the Squier standard and the VM?

Thanks to everyone for posting

well, I personally prefer the P-basses myself, but some people prefer the attack of the jazz basses. It's personal preferance. The VM's have better pickups than the standard squiers, but beyond that: are the same. I'm not 100% impressed with the squiers, the VM and CV series basses look cool and have unique features for the price (fretless sunburst, natural with black block inlays, cream white with a black guard, tele bass?!) but their quality is no differant than the standards. As far as the EQ on the amp goes, you'll want a lot of low end and a lot of midrange to get a flabby, flunky (that's my trademark description of 80's new wave bass) sound. I might suggest his bass:
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-Vintage-Modified-TB-Precision-Bass?sku=519758
or this
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Thunderbird-IV-Bass?sku=518391
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-EB3-SG-Bass?sku=518243
or something along these lines
http://cgi.ebay.com/1970s-Epiphone-EA-260-Bass-Guitar_W0QQitemZ230314415699QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item230314415699&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

You've got a plethora of basses that'll do for you, but the best you can get for the tone of those bands, isn't what most people on here will suggest. Go to a store, play them, find what you like and the sound you're looking for. That's my advice, I can point you in a direction, but ultimately, you have to decide for youself.
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#37
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well, I personally prefer the P-basses myself, but some people prefer the attack of the jazz basses. It's personal preferance. The VM's have better pickups than the standard squiers, but beyond that: are the same. I'm not 100% impressed with the squiers, the VM and CV series basses look cool and have unique features for the price (fretless sunburst, natural with black block inlays, cream white with a black guard, tele bass?!) but their quality is no differant than the standards. As far as the EQ on the amp goes, you'll want a lot of low end and a lot of midrange to get a flabby, flunky (that's my trademark description of 80's new wave bass) sound. I might suggest his bass:
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-Vintage-Modified-TB-Precision-Bass?sku=519758
or this
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Thunderbird-IV-Bass?sku=518391
http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-EB3-SG-Bass?sku=518243
or something along these lines
http://cgi.ebay.com/1970s-Epiphone-EA-260-Bass-Guitar_W0QQitemZ230314415699QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item230314415699&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

You've got a plethora of basses that'll do for you, but the best you can get for the tone of those bands, isn't what most people on here will suggest. Go to a store, play them, find what you like and the sound you're looking for. That's my advice, I can point you in a direction, but ultimately, you have to decide for youself.

Love the thunderbird, but I'm not really sure about its sound. How would you describe it?
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#39
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Love the thunderbird, but I'm not really sure about its sound. How would you describe it?

muddy, indistinct, and terrible.

go with the Gretsch.
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#40
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muddy, indistinct, and terrible.

go with the Gretsch.

the gretsch is going to sound worse than the thunderbird by a long shot, besides, the thunderbird will be what he's going for. Roll off the bridge pickup, full tone: there it is.
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