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#1
hello, i am relatively new to this forum. but here is my question, in the next couple of months i really have to get serious about guitar as i will be performing regularly at my church.
my friends and i are going to form an alternative rock band and i was wondering what you thought of the rigg i am going to save for and put together

here it is.

> Electro Harmonix POG PolyPhonic Octave Pedal.
> Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
> Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
> Electro Harmonix Big Muff
> Boss RV-5 Reverb
> Boss TU-2 Tuner
> Boss TR-2 Tremolo
> Boss PS-5 Super Shifter x2
> Boss OS-2 OverDrive
> Boss DD-5 Delay x2 (1 set to reverse)
> Boss DD-6 Delay
> Boss LS-2 Line Selector
> Boss RX-20XL Loop Station
> Boss DS-1 Distortion
> Boss Pw-10 Wah/ Crybaby Original Wah
> Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini Distortion

With a Fender Telecaster and a Line6 spider 3 112 75 watt. amplifier
#2
Terrible amp and too many pedals with terrible bypassing. Also, there is a lot of redundancy there.
#5
Quote by GhostHopkinson

With a Fender Telecaster and a Line6 spider 3 112 75 watt. amplifier


You can't polish a turd.... Get a better amp.

edit---
the guitar is ok...
start from scratch though...
#6
Why on eartyh would you need all those pedals with a modeling amp?
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#7
If you edit the original post in your other thread you can delete the thread.
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#9
Well, I was kinda"ehhh.." until I got to your amp, and I must say, no.

You can do without the pedals (you dont need THAT many) and put that money into buying a good amp.
especially since most Boss pedals are $50+ (IIRC) you could get a pretty sweet amp.
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#10
what the heck? You don't use pedals like that with a modelling amp. That amp is crap. Those pedals cost you a few thousand or so, why on earth wouldn't you get an amp that sounds good?

sell 10 pedals and get a freakin tube amp
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#11
Quote by FightinIrishPJ
what the heck? You don't use pedals like that with a modelling amp. That amp is crap. Those pedals cost you a few thousand or so, why on earth wouldn't you get an amp that sounds good?

sell all the pedals and get a freakin good amp

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#12
well can anyone suggest a non modeling amp and can anyone suggest what to take out and what to put in my rigg?
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#14
. First off, worry about getting a good base tone before you start adding tons of effects. I doubt you need that many. Pick maybe 4-5 ESSENTIIAL pedals. Sell all the others and that amp. What genres do you play? Then we can give you some amp suggetions
#15
what if i take out the dd-5's and the ps-5 and the ls-2???
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#16
no need for the boss super shifter especially 2, it sucks, no need for a line selector pedal, no need for 4 different delay pedals, don't need boss distortion/overdrive...holy crap where do u get this from man? slow down you want everything. thast all ****
#17
i play indie/metal/psychadelic/rock/alternative with a bit of an electro hit to it
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#19
what would your budget be if you didn't buy all those pedals?
because if your going to be in an Alt rock band, you don't need any of those pedals.

The only ones that I could see being useful would be the reverb pedal, (but you could get an amp that already has reverb on it) and the tuner pedal, but I wouldn't recommend the Boss tuner pedal.
Quote by jdmurrayz
Fap energy comes from the soul, not the body.
#20
> Electro Harmonix POG PolyPhonic Octave Pedal.
> Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
> Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
> Electro Harmonix Big Muff
> Boss RV-5 Reverb
> Boss TU-2 Tuner
> Boss TR-2 Tremolo
> Boss DD-5 Delay x2 (1 set to reverse)
> Boss RX-20XL Loop Station
> Boss DS-1 Distortion
> Boss Pw-10 Wah/ Crybaby Original Wah
> Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini Distortion
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#21
4 Delays? For that price you could have gotten one delay that does presets.
#23
Quote by GhostHopkinson
> Electro Harmonix POG PolyPhonic Octave Pedal.
> Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
> Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
> Electro Harmonix Big Muff
> Boss RV-5 Reverb
> Boss TU-2 Tuner
> Boss TR-2 Tremolo
> Boss DD-5 Delay x2 (1 set to reverse)
> Boss RX-20XL Loop Station
> Boss DS-1 Distortion
> Boss Pw-10 Wah/ Crybaby Original Wah
> Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini Distortion

Keep going...
#24
> Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
> Korg Pitchblack Tuner
> Vox V848 Wah
> Boss SD-1
> Big Muff Pi
> Boss PS-5
> EHX Deluxe Memory Man
> Line 6 DL-4
> EHX Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai

There is a stripped down version that covers all the same bases.

You can get away with three delays if you are using them all for different purposes.

Amps (depending on what sound you want)
Orange Tiny Terror Combo
Vox AC15/30
Fender Deluxe Reverb RI
Last edited by colin617 at Dec 19, 2008,
#25
Originally Posted by GhostHopkinson
> Electro Harmonix POG PolyPhonic Octave Pedal.
> Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
> Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
> Electro Harmonix Big Muff
> Boss RV-5 Reverb
> Boss TU-2 Tuner
> Boss TR-2 Tremolo
> Boss RX-20XL Loop Station
> Boss Pw-10 Wah/ Crybaby Original Wah
> Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini Distortion
> some good delay pedal "With Presets"

(WTF do i need a ds1 for if i'm getting a jemini dist
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#26
WAY too many pedals. and most of them are boss, which have crappy bypass.
I'd invest most of your cash into a sweet amp, and get the basics when it comes to pedals.
Anyways, if you get a nice amp, most of the time, the amps built in reverb and trem are better than most pedals (of course, unless you want like cavern reverb or super choppy trem).
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#27
or even
Boss DS-2 Turbo Distortion
Boss ODB-3 Bass OverDrive
Boss SYB-3 Bass Synthesiser
Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller
Line 6 FM-4 Filter Modeller
BOSS TU-2 Tuner.
BOSS DD-3 Digital Delay.
Arion SAD-1 Analogue Delay
Boss RC-20XL Loop Station
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
Last edited by GhostHopkinson at Dec 19, 2008,
#28
Quote by GhostHopkinson
> Electro Harmonix POG PolyPhonic Octave Pedal.
> Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
> Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
> Electro Harmonix Big Muff
> Boss RV-5 Reverb
> Boss TU-2 Tuner
> Boss TR-2 Tremolo
> Boss DD-5 Delay x2 (1 set to reverse)
> Boss RX-20XL Loop Station
> Boss DS-1 Distortion
> Boss Pw-10 Wah/ Crybaby Original Wah
> Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini Distortion


you don't need that many delay pedals...there are some bigger delay pedals that do all that at once...
I already mentioned about the reverb & tuner, and you don't need the two distortion pedals.
Dont use the Boss Wah pedal, I won't mention about the loop station (don't know what that is )
Quote by jdmurrayz
Fap energy comes from the soul, not the body.
#30
Quote by GhostHopkinson
i got it from diff people/ peers


Wow, Did they just give them to you? Thats alot of pedals, seems like you'd be able to do just about any type of music. Are you using any of the amps distortion or is all the drive sounds comming from your pedals?
#31
> Electro Harmonix POG PolyPhonic Octave Pedal.
> Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
> Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
> Electro Harmonix Big Muff
> Boss RV-5 Reverb
> Boss TU-2 Tuner
> Boss TR-2 Tremolo
> Boss RX-20XL Loop Station
> Boss Pw-10 Wah/ Crybaby Original Wah
> Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini Distortion
> some good delay pedal "With Presets"
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#32
Quote by mcrfobtai
Ok you know what forget pedals for right now.
What bands are you trying to emulate? Amp should always come first


+1
Quote by jdmurrayz
Fap energy comes from the soul, not the body.
#33
Why the hell do you keep posting that list of pedals?

I smell a troll.

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#34
Quote by Muramasa
Wow, Did they just give them to you? Thats alot of pedals, seems like you'd be able to do just about any type of music. Are you using any of the amps distortion or is all the drive sounds comming from your pedals?


no i havn't gotten them yet this was an idea that came together from long guitar discussions with friends aswell as bloc party fans cos some of it is based on their lead guit's rigg
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#35
Absolutely. Forget about pedals. Let's work from the ground up.
What's your budget?

BTW, it's spelled "rig", not "rigg"
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#36
Quote by mcrfobtai
Ok you know what forget pedals for right now.
What bands are you trying to emulate? Amp should always come first


we are trying to emulate bloc party,the klaxons,brittish india, the wombats
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#37
- Electro Harmonix POG PolyPhonic Octave Pedal.
- Ernie Ball Stereo volume/pan pedal
- Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
+ Electro Harmonix Big Muff
- Boss RV-5 Reverb
+ Boss TU-2 Tuner
+ Boss TR-2 Tremolo
- Boss PS-5 Super Shifter x2
- Boss OS-2 OverDrive
- Boss DD-5 Delay x2 (1 set to reverse)
+ Boss DD-6 Delay
- Boss LS-2 Line Selector
+ Boss RX-20XL Loop Station
- Boss DS-1 Distortion
+ Boss Pw-10 Wah/ Crybaby Original Wah
- Ibanez Steve Vai Jemini Distortion

Thats almost 500 dollars of pedals. Maybe more IDK I went for about 50 bucks a pedal or so. You can sell them for that price or lower on ebay.

Sell the amp and get a quick 100.

Then all you have to do is find a good quality 500 dollarish tube amp. I'd say b-52 at112, crate v18/v50 (if you can find either anymore), a vox m15 (modeler tube), or if you can get lucky and find an OLD marshall tube combo, like a jcm800 or something similar (hell even a dsl would be nice).

You'd be much better off.
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#38
Quote by darkarbiter7
Absolutely. Forget about pedals. Let's work from the ground up.
What's your budget?

BTW, it's spelled "rig", not "rigg"

at the moment this will be a long term project so when i get a job it will most likely be like 1000-5000 through 2009
Epiphone SG-400 w/ rocktek starter amp
Boss DS-1
#39
By working from the ground up, I mean let's find a good amp to start.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#40
Alright, that's what we really needed to know. Now you don't need all those pedals. From what I know, I suggest a Vox AC30 or and Orange Rocker 30. those should do you well. i suppose a Fender from the Hot Rod series would do you ok but they don't have good drive at all.
And AC30 with a good overdrive=win

EDIT: 5000?!?
Holy ****
Forget that. Start looking Dr. Z. I think they might do you well.
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