#1
Hey, I'm making an ibanez rg out of random parts ive found around, and Im about to put in a graphtech ghost floyd rose piezo. Would it also work to later install a fernandez sustainer on it? I know the ghost can use its battery to power active pickups, so i think it would be the same for a sustainer. Does anybody know how to do this?
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It won't work unless you use normal pickups , no piezo , the sustainer works by reinjecting the electromagnetic output of the pickups , back into them , it will have no effect on a piezo device that is only susceptible to electrical charges.
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^more or less.

besides, most people who have piezos also have magnestic pups.
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yes it'd work! youd just have to put a regular magnetic pickup in it. Just learn how sustainers work and think about (the fernades units are insanely overpriced simple devices) then i suggest building your own rather than using the fernades thingy.


sorry that im thread-jacking,

got any links for how tos? im very interested!
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It won't work unless you use normal pickups , no piezo , the sustainer works by reinjecting the electromagnetic output of the pickups , back into them , it will have no effect on a piezo device that is only susceptible to electrical charges.

Actually it would work. Sustainers dont have anything to do with the pickups, they produce a magnetic field to vibrate the string. They can interfere with pickups though, thats why they usually replace the neck pickup.

TS, sounds like a good project!
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Hah, of course I'm going to have magnetic pickups too. The setup is gonna be like a typical RG, with (potentially?) a nailbomb bridge, graphtech ghost floyd rose (with piezo), and some type of sustainer in the neck position. I would build my own, but i also want a neck pickup, and i like the fernandes sustainer, which i think has the sustainer AND a pickup in one. (But i saw a link about building sustainers ages ago, i'll look for it). THe main problem i have with it is wiring the piezo and sustainer together, since i only wanna use one battery. The sustainer also comes with a whole circuit board, any ideas how to wire that all in?

EDIT: here's a link for sustainer building, hope that helps!
http://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-27249.html

and also i'll try to post pics once i get the ghost in, then hopefully more once i get a sustainer
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Hah, of course I'm going to have magnetic pickups too. The setup is gonna be like a typical RG, with (potentially?) a nailbomb bridge, graphtech ghost floyd rose (with piezo), and some type of sustainer in the neck position. I would build my own, but i also want a neck pickup, and i like the fernandes sustainer, which i think has the sustainer AND a pickup in one. (But i saw a link about building sustainers ages ago, i'll look for it). THe main problem i have with it is wiring the piezo and sustainer together, since i only wanna use one battery. The sustainer also comes with a whole circuit board, any ideas how to wire that all in?

EDIT: here's a link for sustainer building, hope that helps!
http://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-27249.html

and also i'll try to post pics once i get the ghost in, then hopefully more once i get a sustainer



oh!!! i understand how it works now! thats insanely simple, so thats what the fernandez is? or is it different?
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well, fernandez has the alternate modes on theirs, like the 3rds/5ths/whatever they call it, i cant remember. But basically all they do is have a battery vibrate the strings a certain way so they keep playing
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well, fernandez has the alternate modes on theirs, like the 3rds/5ths/whatever they call it, i cant remember. But basically all they do is have a battery vibrate the strings a certain way so they keep playing


so none of that crazy high pitched crap?
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the crazy high pitched crap comes from alternate modes on the sustainer, not the normal sustainer. if you made your own you would only get a sustainer, not any controlled feedback/harmonies
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the crazy high pitched crap comes from alternate modes on the sustainer, not the normal sustainer. if you made your own you would only get a sustainer, not any controlled feedback/harmonies


awesome, thanks.
all im interested in is the sustaining.
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If any off you would mind documenting a bit and not answearing from your ass you'd know that the the diy sustainer dosn't sustain the b or low e strings and dosn't feature a blend mode or octave up.
And the fernandes sustainer replaces your neck pickup with a fake pickup that acts like a driver for the sustainer, it's not a real neck pickup.
If you wanna use a neck pickup with the sustainer you'll be getting alot of feedback from it.
Also try buying a Sustainiac , they are alot cheaper second hand , and the fernandes is basicaly a licensed Sustainiac.
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#15
I would try the sustainiac, but i heard that its an active pickup when not in use, and i dont want to have active pickups, a piezo (run by a 9volt battery) and a sustainer all crammed in my guitar.
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