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#2
They don't sound good.

Yes, I have tried both of them. With several guitars. Their clean sound is very plain and thin, and their distortion is fuzzy and piercing. There's no "body" to it, however you adjust the controls. There are way better amps out there for the same price.

Everyone will recommend the Roland Cube series, or the Vox Valvetronix.
#3
The mgs are sh!t imo
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#5
If you only have enough money for a Spider or MG, then the Spiders at least are certainly better than the host of Behringer, Stagg, Squier (not Fender) etc practice amps.

They are crap in the sense that in a world that also contains Ferraris and Lambourginis, a Ford Escort is crap.
#6
they dont sound good, I have a line 6, and after I got a Musicman Tube 2X10 combo, my Line 6 sounds like rubbish. all the amp models dont sound good, the effects are good for what theyre worth, but you could get a cheapo multi-effects pedal with the same effect.

at least thats with the line 6, not sure with the MG
#8
I don't think spiders and MG's are as bad as everyone makes them out to be, they usually get criticized because they don't perfect tone. But for the price I don't think there is anything wrong with them.

I have an MG15DFX as my main practice amp in my room, It's not got ripping distortion or smooth cleans but for the £60 i paid for it i think it's ideal for low volume practice on my own
#9
they both sound really thin to me
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If you only have enough money for a Spider or MG, then the Spiders at least are certainly better than the host of Behringer, Stagg, Squier (not Fender) etc practice amps.

They are crap in the sense that in a world that also contains Ferraris and Lambourginis, a Ford Escort is crap.

Yeah, but you have to consider for the same price there's a Vypyr.
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#11
VYPYR for Ever. Best amp ever. Click the link in my above post.
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Quote by blue_strat
If you only have enough money for a Spider or MG, then the Spiders at least are certainly better than the host of Behringer, Stagg, Squier (not Fender) etc practice amps.

They are crap in the sense that in a world that also contains Ferraris and Lambourginis, a Ford Escort is crap.

Uh, what?

I think the MG's and Spiders are crap in general, not just compared to more expensive amps. I have tried better solid state amps that cost less, like some Hughes and Kettner models. The MG's are just popular because they're Marshall. Spiders are popular becaus they have 7 channels and people think they can achieve any tone you want. Besides that, every single music store I've ever been to stocks tons of them, so they're pretty much the only choice for first-time buyers.

The spider 3 isn't anywehre near as bad as the first two, but there are still better amps for less.
#14
I own and MG, and I really like it. It's so much better than pretty much all of my friends' amps, and I seriously see nothing wrong with it.
#15
Spider III Line 6 sound good to me. Nothing that bothers me about it.
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#16
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I own and MG, and I really like it. It's so much better than pretty much all of my friends' amps, and I seriously see nothing wrong with it.

What kind of amps do your friends own? Not to be condesending or anything (however that's spelt)
#17
Quote by sashki
What kind of amps do your friends own? Not to be condesending or anything (however that's spelt)


Zephyrs, other Marshalls, etc. Mostly Zephyrs, though, and one of them owns a Line 6.

EDIT: I think it's Zephyr, I'm not too sure.
#18
Actually, Spiders are perfectly acceptable if you only need teh brootalz. They do crushing distortion pretty well, it's crunch tones where there lacking.
#19
I've had an MG for about 4 years (as long as i've been playing), 30 watt, and its sucked for 4 years. they're ok if your in your first year or two of playing, but theres 100's of better amps that takem the biscuit.

on the MG the cleans are ok, and i use mt metal muff and boss metal zone for distortion.

The spiders Insane setting is ok with the right guitar, but all its other setting are terrible. 3 of my friends have spiders and i've played jacksons, ibanez, fenders, gibsons and bc richs through them. where as my Mg i've only played ibanez and bc rich. soi i dont know about what else it has to offer for other guitar.
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#20
Quote by sashki
They don't sound good.

Yes, I have tried both of them. With several guitars. Their clean sound is very plain and thin, and their distortion is fuzzy and piercing. There's no "body" to it, however you adjust the controls. There are way better amps out there for the same price.

Everyone will recommend the Roland Cube series, or the Vox Valvetronix.


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#21
Quote by EatShreddies
I don't think spiders and MG's are as bad as everyone makes them out to be, they usually get criticized because they don't perfect tone. But for the price I don't think there is anything wrong with them.

I have an MG15DFX as my main practice amp in my room, It's not got ripping distortion or smooth cleans but for the £60 i paid for it i think it's ideal for low volume practice on my own


+1

Not terrible amps, just overpriced.
#22
I only have an MG15DFX, and it has to be the most god-awful-sounding piece of garbage I've ever had the misfortune of playing through. It's probably the main reason WHY I usually play unplugged.
#24
Dude, seriously Vypyrs are like, 8 times better than spiders, but are the same price. You are just a dumbass if you buy a spider when you could have bought a Vypyr.

Please compare

Spider:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Spider-III-30-Guitar-Combo-Amplifier?sku=482275

With Vypyr:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/...-Amp?sku=482909
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#26
I use a malmsteen overdrive through a marshall MG and get an awesome, thick tone. This forum has a lot of 13 year olds who want to sound cool and experienced by talking **** on MG's and Spiders when they've never played through them. Don't listen to them. Try the amps out, if you like them, that's all that matters. Learn to set your EQ, and develop good playing, and you can make any amp sound decent. Hell, I did it with a Fender Frontman 15G (one of the cheapest amps ever) over Thanksgiving break.
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Quote by bnull24
I use a malmsteen overdrive through a marshall MG and get an awesome, thick tone. This forum has a lot of 13 year olds who want to sound cool and experienced by talking **** on MG's and Spiders when they've never played through them. Don't listen to them. Try the amps out, if you like them, that's all that matters. Learn to set your EQ, and develop good playing, and you can make any amp sound decent. Hell, I did it with a Fender Frontman 15G (one of the cheapest amps ever) over Thanksgiving break.


Agreed. You shouldn't take anybody's advice (good or bad) without at least trying the equipment for yourself. When my MG was my main amp, I used an MXR 10-band and a Metal Muff to get the distortion where it needed to be.
#29
I like the distortion on my Spider II... It's very nice for rhythm I think. My soloing tone isn't the best but then again, I don't solo often. I love the delay on it though...
#31
I borrowed a Spider II for the longest time, and I never could get any good sound out of it. I tried with several guitars (a Jackson, a Fender and a Behringer ()); nothing.

I don't know how much it costs, but the other amps I have owned (a VOX, Peavey Valveking and Randall solid state amp) have all sounded MUCH better, and I think they are about the same price wise.
#33
Spider 3 is a good practice amp but unless you shell out the extra cash for a switch board it is highly impracticle and it dosen't sound thaat great. The only useful setting is Insane.
#34
If the choice is between those two - I'd take the Line 6.

I've used a bandmate's MG50 for a gig in a tiny space. It was plenty loud for the space but it sounded very sterile. The feedback was shrill and it went mushy at about 5 on the volume.

Line 6 makes some nice amps in the Vetta line and the Flextones are not that bad. I've played a Spider Valve at low-level (at Guitar Center) but I couldn't tell if the sound would hold up to volume.

What wattage are you looking for?

There are a few low wattage tube amps that will give you a better tone than an MG or a Line 6. Don't be fooled but the wattage rating. I have a Fender Hot Rod Deville 410 60 watt amp that is louder and has more usable volume than my friend's Fender Frontman 212R 100 watt SS amp. It has much better tone and actually sounds better the louder you play it. That is reversed from most SS amps I've ever played.
#35
Quote by aseme

The clean channel on it sounds fuller, but the rest is literally identical to the presents on the other spider. The valve factor doesn't change anything. Plus, the master volume control made popping noises. It's not worth the extra cash.
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That costs twice as much as the standard Spider III 15.

That one's 30 watts. A 30 watt Spider III costs the same.
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#36
Quote by Nilpferdkoenig
That costs twice as much as the standard Spider III 15.

Yes, because it's twice the wattage.

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That one's 30 watts. A 30 watt Spider III costs the same.

Damn, beaten. But still, point proven.
#37
Quote by aseme


They are ok. A big step up from a spider 3. I played one and it was super digital sounding on the high gain channels. Doesn't compare to nice high gain amps like a 5150 which you can get used for near the same price.

They are nice but you can do soooooo much better for that price.

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#38
Quote by Nilpferdkoenig
That costs twice as much as the standard Spider III 15.





Because it's a 30. They also have a 15, for the same price as the spider 15. And guess what? The 30 costs the same as a spider 30!
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#39
Quote by synpet713192
Yes, because it's twice the wattage.


Damn, beaten. But still, point proven.



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#40
Quote by synpet713192
Yes, because it's twice the wattage.
Damn, beaten. But still, point proven.


Ah yeah, now they cost the same

But your reason "twice the wattage" is
Most amp heads have 100W and cost between 350-5000€.
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