#1
Hi all,

I usually frequent the guitar forum as I'm first and foremost a guitarist, but recently I've had a desire to take up bass (it may have something to do with watching one too many Rush videos and obsessively listening to Geddy Lee ), so I'd like to get one after Xmas. Now, I'll freely admit I'm slightly out of my depth with regards to basses, so I'm asking for help.
I'm into prog rock to metal, and Rush are my current favourite band. I really like Geddy's signature Jazz Bass, but as the only bass I've ever played has been T.I.R.O. at guitar stores or octave-shifting my Ibanez, I'm not going to drop £600 into this, so I've looked at Squier J-Basses.
I've had an agathis-bodied guitar before and I really didn't like playing it acoustically - it always sounded muted, so I really don't want a bass made of agathis or super-cheap wood in case I decide to keep it - spending a bit more on a better bass should mean I could also potentially sell it on without much loss if I don't like it.
My first choice was the standard alder J-Bass. It looks OK, and I guess the alder body gives a standard bass sound.
http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Squier---Affinity-Jazz-Bass,-Black~ID~3427.asp

I then stumbled on the Vintage Modified J-Bass and really liked the look of it - the open wood grain and maple fretboard look great. However, the FAQ says that a maple body is very bright, much brighter than alder. Is this a good thing?
http://www.musicroom.com/se/ID_No/0443073/details.html?kbid=1582

Amp-wise, I hear using a guitar amp isn't a good call, so I've singled out a Laney RB-1. My HCM30R has a good bass response, and I've heard Laney make good bass amps.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Laney-RB-1-Bass-amplifier_W0QQitemZ360100262331QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item360100262331&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1298|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

I also came across Squier's bass package - bass, amp, etc. Though it doesn't have the VM bass, it includes a practise amp and works out cheaper than buying either a normal or VM bass and a separate amp.
http://www.nevadamusic.co.uk/Bass_Guitars/Bass_Guitars/Beginner/sc1113/p5893.aspx

I guess what I'm getting at is, what's the best option for me? Are any of the options I've picked out good, or am I completely on the wrong track?

Any help appreciated!
Merry Christmas everyone,
Rob J

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#2
i really strongly suggest you go with the vintage modified jazz, much better than the standard series, and for an amp go with an acoustic.
Laney is good too. i have a 15 year old laney bass amp and it is still going strong

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#5
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just don't use a pick, that's all i have to say

Is it such a bad thing to use on bass?

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#6
Quote by quantum leap
Is it such a bad thing to use on bass?

No it is not, use what feels best to you and gives you the tone your looking for
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Hmm. I'd start out by saying you should definitely try to play a bass before you get an expensive one. Because incase you end up thinking: "Wow, this sure sucks balls...", you will be happy that you haven't spent ALL your money on a costly bass. Get Squier starter pack. It includes everything you'd want to start with. But why are you getting a J-style bass?
Try to see if you can find a Ibanez Starter bass pack. That particular bass has both a P-style and a J-style pickup, and includes pretty much what'd you want in a starter pack. Here's a link for ya! http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_gsr190jubk_jumpstart_basspaket.htm
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Quote by bazz205
Hmm. I'd start out by saying you should definitely try to play a bass before you get an expensive one. Because incase you end up thinking: "Wow, this sure sucks balls...", you will be happy that you haven't spent ALL your money on a costly bass. Get Squier starter pack. It includes everything you'd want to start with. But why are you getting a J-style bass?
Try to see if you can find a Ibanez Starter bass pack. That particular bass has both a P-style and a J-style pickup, and includes pretty much what'd you want in a starter pack. Here's a link for ya! http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_gsr190jubk_jumpstart_basspaket.htm

Well, I love the aesthetics of the J-Bass, especially the ones I looked at. Good argument about the not-spending-all-my-money on a bass rig; the issue is, if I actually get into it, I don't want a p.o.s. cheap bass to continue with, and if I don't get on with it, a better bass would have better resale value, as I figure it.
Not very taken with the Ibanez option - a bit more expensive than the Squier option, not specific about the wood and a less powerful amp.

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Laney HCM30R
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#11
First of all, thank you for reading the FAQ first. And ignore the "don't use a pick" guy. Learn both picking methods, pick the best feeling/sounding to you. Personally, I love the sound of a pick, but I'm way more comfortable fingerpicking. It's whatever suits you.

As for bass, definately pick that Squier Vintage Modified bass. It's leagues ahead of any squier and will get you that jazz bass growl for a pretty good price.

For amp.. I've got a Laney RB4 and I'm not really all that keen on it, though that could have a lot to do with the 15" speaker. Laney are Brittish Budget amps and have a pretty transparent sound.. but that could be what you're looking for. This forum will tell you an Acoustic AB50 is a great match for a VM Jazz as a starter. I've never played this amp, but the forums never steered me wrong before.
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#12
Quote by quantum leap
Is it such a bad thing to use on bass?

No, though it might hamper your playing if you like to do more complex prog stuff

I use picks when I play "punk" stuff, it just sounds and feels better
(otherwise I stick to fingers)
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#13
well i would say outta those to go with the vintage j-bass, personally fenders necks are to wide and strings are to high up for me but sound wise it aint bad.
dont get the package crap, its crap.
look for peavey amps or acoustic amps, run cheap and play good, cant go wrong.
i suggest take some lessons for a while, i did and quit lessons and have regreted it ever since
#14
I asked the guy in Reverb (formerly Soundcontrol) and he said that they will be having a sale in january on guitar and bass starter packs.

Just thought i'd let you know.

merry xmas

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#15
the squier VM and laney you picked out would be perfect.


And btw, hunter, from AFI, uses a pick. And he's a sick bass player. It's a different tone.
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#16
I would aim at an Acoustic amp. Laney is nice, but i much prefer clarity.

stick with the VM, if your Geddy Lee love is anything to go by, bright is a good thing.
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