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#1
so my annoying grandpa asks me a question about the song im writing

he asks, how many bars are in it
i say, i don't remember
he says, all songs have 24 bars
i say, thats bull****
he says, all standard songs have 24 bars
i say, no thats wrong
he says, go look it up and we'll make a bet on it, 20 bucks


so the point is he wants to see that he's wrong "officially" before he gives me my 20 bucks

so yeah Pit, help me win 20 bucks and prove an old man wrong

and if by chance i'm the one who's wrong, which i doubt, at least give me something that makes it look like i'm right anyway
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#2
He's wrong, thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

No offense to your gramps.
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#3
show him like a 12 bars blues song

that should repeat quite a few times.
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#4
i know damn well that hes wrong, i just need it on a website or else he won't believe me and i wont get my 20 bucks

EDIT: you there, below the guy below this comment, of corse i tried google, i couldnt find anything
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#8
Quote by PhillyHendrix
i know damn well that hes wrong, i just need it on a website or else he won't believe me and i wont get my 20 bucks


So you know damn well that he's wrong, but yet you are unable to show him you're right by yourself?

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So you know damn well that he's wrong, but yet you are unable to show him you're right by yourself?

You've very lucky it's Christmas!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_bar_blues

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Your argument holds no ground. He's an old person. He will justify by saying 'Hell, back in ol' days, they used to repeat ever'thin they play'd. Heeel them 12 ba' blues ain't nuttin' but a 24 bar sowng'.

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Quote by PhillyHendrix
so my annoying grandpa asks me a question about the song im writing

he asks, how many bars are in it
i say, i don't remember
he says, all songs have 24 bars
i say, thats bull****
he says, all standard songs have 24 bars
i say, no thats wrong
he says, go look it up and we'll make a bet on it, 20 bucks


so the point is he wants to see that he's wrong "officially" before he gives me my 20 bucks

so yeah Pit, help me win 20 bucks and prove an old man wrong

and if by chance i'm the one who's wrong, which i doubt, at least give me something that makes it look like i'm right anyway


Play him a Conway Twitty song. Needless to say, he will submit.
#16
Quote by therealtater
24 bars to a song? isnt a bar like 6 or 7 notes? hes wrong sorry but u gotta give me 19.99 for helping you



Do you really not understand the division of Whole, Half, Quarter, 8th, 16th, 32nd and 64th notes? Not to mention triplets in all forms of those and dotted/double dotted?
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Quote by therealtater
24 bars to a song? isnt a bar like 6 or 7 notes? hes wrong sorry but u gotta give me 19.99 for helping you

i think it depends on what time signature its in
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#20
i think hes right. he did say STANDARD song, afterall. a standard song has an A verse, a chorus, and a B verse. if each part is 8 barslong then that makes sense. a typical section of a song is 8 bars on average. not counting repeat choruses because thats not any more bars, its just more time.

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#21
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i think it depends on what time signature its in



Do you really not understand the division of Whole, Half, Quarter, 8th, 16th, 32nd and 64th notes? Not to mention triplets in all forms of those and dotted/double dotted?


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#22
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give your grandpa 20 bucks.


Go die in a fire you geriatric ****er.
#23
This thread contains a ridiculous amount of fail.

Listen to any piece of music with your gramps and count all the bars in it. That'll prove him wrong.
#24
Fail

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Do you really not understand the division of Whole, Half, Quarter, 8th, 16th, 32nd and 64th notes? Not to mention triplets in all forms of those and dotted/double dotted?


I dont know that much theroy so no I dont
#26
I'm on it dude, give me 5 mins.

I'l roughly score out a beatles tune or something and upload it as a pdf.
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I dont know that much theroy so no I dont

musictheory.net

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#28
90 bars is on average a 3 minute song.

Which would turn out to be 360 whole notes....and thats a slow song....

Then add in half, quarter, 16th, 32nd, 64th and so on and so forth its still the same amount of bars but amount of notes changes.


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I'm not really sure if that last bit helps any.
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#30
Here you go, hope it helps.

Hard Days Night - The Beatles. Pretty standard song..

82 bars long.

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#33
Quote by assparade69
i think hes right. he did say STANDARD song, afterall. a standard song has an A verse, a chorus, and a B verse. if each part is 8 barslong then that makes sense. a typical section of a song is 8 bars on average. not counting repeat choruses because thats not any more bars, its just more time.

give your grandpa 20 bucks.



what makes a song standard? what constitutes a section? why is it typical to be 8 bars and not say 11?
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#35
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Do you really not understand the division of Whole, Half, Quarter, 8th, 16th, 32nd and 64th notes? Not to mention triplets in all forms of those and dotted/double dotted?


ITT: Music Retards


Uh, the other guy's right. If a song has a 3/4 time signature, a bar will be 3 quarter notes long. Which is equivalent to 6 eighth notes. or 12 sixteenth notes. If a song is in 7/8 time, it will be 7 eighth notes long, which is the same as three and a half quarter notes. A triplet of eighth notes is equivalent to one quarter note. And a dotted half note is the same as three quarter notes. A dotted quarter note is equivalent to three eighth notes. Learn your maths please.

Looks like the fail's on you, Wyldchylde.
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#36
I understand all the division of measures with measures

I understand all of this on this thread

ITS MY GRANDPA THATS DOESNT AND HES A MORON
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#37
Quote by assparade69
i think hes right. he did say STANDARD song, afterall. a standard song has an A verse, a chorus, and a B verse. if each part is 8 barslong then that makes sense. a typical section of a song is 8 bars on average. not counting repeat choruses because thats not any more bars, its just more time.

give your grandpa 20 bucks.

This.

He isn't talking about some Prog song that is 20 minutes

He is talking about (old) Standard music
Whether you like it or not, gramps is correct
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#38
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This.

He isn't talking about some Prog song that is 20 minutes

He is talking about (old) Standard music
Whether you like it or not, gramps is correct

Regardless of how old the music is, he's still wrong. Look up anything classical (about as old as it gets). The composition length and the number of bars in it vary greatly.

If you want even older than that, go for folk music.


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#39
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Regardless of how old the music is, he's still wrong. Look up anything classical (about as old as it gets). The composition length and the number of bars in it vary greatly.

If you want older, go for folk music.

I never said "the oldest"
I used the word old to deviate from the newer standard of 32 bars
(yes, AABA with that middle 8 section
or more complex A as a Verse/Chorus and B as a Bridge)
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