#1
Alright well I'm really trying to get into improvisation and I've been learnign all these different positions for the minor pentatonic scale. I do have a few questions. When you're listening to a song, and it's in a major key, you can play the relative minor pentatonic scale to that major key right? Also, I'd like to know a couple solos that just use the minor pentatonic so that I can study some licks and how they move around. Thanks for any help.
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#2
i think that some bullet for my valentine solos are in minor pentatonic, but dont quote me on this, i could be wrong! try "suffocating under words of sorrow" by them
#3
I'll let you in on a little secret...

Almost every blues song ever recorded has a minor pentatonic solo at some point.
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#4
they play in drop C, I'm looking for stuff in standard
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#6
The notes from a Major scales relative minor are the exact same. The only difference in the tonal center.

If you play using a "relative minor" scale over a progression in a Major key.. it would be simply using the major scale. In order for the solo to be in a minor key, the progression has to be minor aswell
#7
Guns 'N Roses songs. Slash uses the Minor Pentatonic nearly always.
And forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Zakk Wylde use it alot as well?

Jedit: And Nilp, Dimebag used the blues scale. But the minor pent can still be used to solo over Pantera songs.
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Quote by Oblivion_Rps
Guns 'N Roses songs. Slash uses the Minor Pentatonic nearly always.
And forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Zakk Wylde use it alot as well?


He is the pentatonic master
He even has a video called pentatonic speedball or some ****.


The blues scale is just 1 added note, Page and Tony Iommi used it alot too, it's not much difference.
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Quote by Oblivion_Rps
Guns 'N Roses songs. Slash uses the Minor Pentatonic nearly always.
And forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Zakk Wylde use it alot as well?

Jedit: And Nilp, Dimebag used the blues scale. But the minor pent can still be used to solo over Pantera songs.

Dimebag is confusing to newbies though, because he used a lot of chromaticism and often strayed completely out of key.
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Dimebag is confusing to newbies though, because he used a lot of chromaticism and often strayed completely out of key.


Yeah... you gotta love him.

I'm not a huge Pantera fan, and I do think that his tone sucked ass however he was one motherfucker of a guitarist.


Also TS, most classic/hard rockers used the Minor Pent. It's like THE scale for improvs.
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Yeah... you gotta love him.

I'm not a huge Pantera fan, and I do think that his tone sucked ass however he was one motherfucker of a guitarist.


Also TS, most classic/hard rockers used the Minor Pent. It's like THE scale for improvs.

yeah, hell of a guy, hell of a guitarist. Probably the most unique lead guitarist I've ever heard, and my favorite groove-metal riffer ever.

But seriously...he could have used some mids.
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yeah, hell of a guy, hell of a guitarist. Probably the most unique lead guitarist I've ever heard, and my favorite groove-metal riffer ever.

But seriously...he could have used some mids.



No, he has a very good tone that perfectly represents solid state amps
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No, he has a very good tone that perfectly represents solid state amps

I don't know about that, but still it worked for him, and it's how he chose to sound.
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I don't know about that, but still it worked for him, and it's how he chose to sound.


I meant it in a good way
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I meant it in a good way

Still, Randall's only sound like that if you have 3 EQs with the mids at -10, a delay, 2 overdrives, a whammy pedal, and a Crybaby that's never switched off.
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Still, Randall's only sound like that if you have 3 EQs with the mids at -10, a delay, 2 overdrives, a whammy pedal, and a Crybaby that's never switched off.


I like it
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Yeah... you gotta love him.

No, not really. Nobody really raved about him before he died. He was a very good guitarist but I refuse to buy into this 'RIP DIMEBAG!!!!! BAWWW!!!!' crap. I am not saying it is good he died, just that his death has given him a godlike status. Ehh, whatever.

99% of mainstream rock is done with pentatonic minor or harmonic minor. When I say "mainstream" I am talking about bands that most people listen to, not bands that only guitarists or musical elitists know about.
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No, not really. Nobody really raved about him before he died. He was a very good guitarist but I refuse to buy into this 'RIP DIMEBAG!!!!! BAWWW!!!!' crap. I am not saying it is good he died, just that his death has given him a godlike status. Ehh, whatever.


His death improved his tone?
#20
Hold it... lots of slash's solos contain notes that have nothing to do with the minor pentatonic. What's that about?
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No, not really. Nobody really raved about him before he died. He was a very good guitarist but I refuse to buy into this 'RIP DIMEBAG!!!!! BAWWW!!!!' crap. I am not saying it is good he died, just that his death has given him a godlike status. Ehh, whatever.

99% of mainstream rock is done with pentatonic minor or harmonic minor. When I say "mainstream" I am talking about bands that most people listen to, not bands that only guitarists or musical elitists know about.

That's complete bollocks, you're obviously either not old enough to know what you're talking about or just plain ignorant. You couldn't move for Dime's face on guitar mags in the 90's...he was pretty much THE guitar hero of that era. I was never a massive Pantera fan but you couldn't deny the guy's talent.
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thanks for jacking my thread guys lol.
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That's complete bollocks, you're obviously either not old enough to know what you're talking about or just plain ignorant. You couldn't move for Dime's face on guitar mags in the 90's...he was pretty much THE guitar hero of that era. I was never a massive Pantera fan but you couldn't deny the guy's talent.

I shouldn't have said he wasn't raved about, it's not really what I meant. What I meant was, after his death nobody will hold a hard opinion against him. I have never liked his playing style but he is a very good guitarist. Once again, I'm not saying that it is a good thing he died.
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solos using minor pentatonic? 3 words my friend:
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#26
if your gonna play a minor pentatonic shape over a major key, just shift the minor shape 3 frets down, and theres the major pentatonic for that key.
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if your gonna play a minor pentatonic shape over a major key, just shift the minor shape 3 frets down, and theres the major pentatonic for that key.

ah okay, awesome thanks.

and yah stairway's a big one.
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Quote by Thrash648
if your gonna play a minor pentatonic shape over a major key, just shift the minor shape 3 frets down, and theres the major pentatonic for that key.


That's right, it's the MAJOR pentatonic. Actually for a LOT of rock and especially
blues you're probably more likely to hear the MINOR pentatonic played in a MAJOR
key (ie E minor pentatonic would be played over E major). MAJOR pentatonic
(or "shifting the minor shape down 3 frets") tends to be a more country sound.