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#1
okay, okay, okay...I was looking at Dimebag Darrell's Guitargeek Rig Sheet (as-of 2000 which means Washburn 333/Randall Warhead) & it says that the Axes he was using were a Washburn 333, Washburn Stealth & a Washburn Culprit...& under Note for both the Stealth & the Culprit it says "Drop-D Tuning"...& That's no problem, I know what Drop-D is... BUT under note for the Washburn 333 it says "Tuned Down 1/4-Step"...okay, now I use a Boss TU-12 Chromatic Tuner & My Father uses a Boss TU-2 Chromatic Tuner Pedal....so those are the two tuners I have at my Disposal okay...but how the hell do you tune down 1/4 Step?!?
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#2
go inbetween standard and half step down.

although i think that is a typo, why would anyone (especially someone like dimebag), use a tuning like 1/4 step down?
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#3
Some bands occasionally do, and it's a bitch to tune to correctly. The only other thing I can think of that uses is is E pro by Beck but I'm sure there are many more.
#4
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go inbetween standard and half step down.

although i think that is a typo, why would anyone (especially someone like dimebag), use a tuning like 1/4 step down?


the album Pyromania by Def Leppard was tuned a 1/4 step down.
#5
lol thats his dime tuning, e.g. the song "walk" is in d standard, but 1/4 higher
#8
Ride the Lightning is also a half step sharp. Those tunings happen more by accident though, I don't think many people intentionally tune that way when writing songs.
#9
its actually tuned to 437Hz standard instead of 440Hz

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#11
AC/DC use 1/4 step down tuning a lot.

The simplest but least accurate way is to tune to Standard then tune down until your tuner says you're halfway between tuning to Standard and tuning half a step down. A more accurate way but which requires your tuner to have certain functions is to tune to a different frequency rather than the usual 440 that Standard guitar tuning is to.
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#12
Dimebag tuned 1/4 step down on Cowboys From Hell. I saw Andy Aledort (of Guitar World) do a video playing some Dime songs and he talked about it.
#13
Quote by CJRocker
Ride the Lightning is also a half step sharp. Those tunings happen more by accident though, I don't think many people intentionally tune that way when writing songs.

Actually, a lot of early metallica songs are tuned like that, but i don't know if that was intended.
#14
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Actually, a lot of early metallica songs are tuned like that, but i don't know if that was intended.

My understanding was the piano they tuned to was out of tune...
#15
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I always figured that it was code for 'slightly out of tune'.


Yes and no; while it isn't a standard 12 tone tuning, all the instruments are in tune with each other so it's not really "out of tune" per se.
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#17
uhh

y?

People with perfect pitch would go nanners if they had to listen to it lol...
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#18
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AC/DC use 1/4 step down tuning a lot.

The simplest but least accurate way is to tune to Standard then tune down until your tuner says you're halfway between tuning to Standard and tuning half a step down. A more accurate way but which requires your tuner to have certain functions is to tune to a different frequency rather than the usual 440 that Standard guitar tuning is to.


i think with AC/DC thats more angus and malcolm forgetting to tune their guitars lol
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Actually, a lot of early metallica songs are tuned like that, but i don't know if that was intended.


I once heard a rumour that on some of the early metallica stuff if they weren't happy with the speed rather than re-record they would just speed the tape up a little, I have no idea if that is legit though.
#20
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I once heard a rumour that on some of the early metallica stuff if they weren't happy with the speed rather than re-record they would just speed the tape up a little, I have no idea if that is legit though.

A lot of bands also do this to help the vocalist out.
#21
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I once heard a rumour that on some of the early metallica stuff if they weren't happy with the speed rather than re-record they would just speed the tape up a little, I have no idea if that is legit though.


There's all kinds of rumors flying around about it. I heard that FWTBT is tuned up to match the pitch of the bell at the beginning.

We'll never know if any of them are true though, unless we meet Metallica.
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#22
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You can use a cent meter to tune down a quarter step. I think 50 cents is a 1/4 a step, but i'm not sure.


Naw, that's 2/4, to tune to 1/4 down you would end up tuning @ 437.5Hz That's like


l----------l----------l In the center on that it's standard tuning.
l--------l--l----------l Where the bold sign is, that's 1/4 down.
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#23
yeah its probably more accurate to change the Hz of your tuner and just tune to the desired tuning. Jut figure out what that is, like most people said, probably around 437 instead of 440
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There's all kinds of rumors flying around about it. I heard that FWTBT is tuned up to match the pitch of the bell at the beginning.

We'll never know if any of them are true though, unless we meet Metallica.


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#26
Dimebag tuned to this on Cowboys, Vulgar, and Far Beyond Driven. He went down to C# on The Great Southern Trendkill, and then he tuned 1 and a 1/4 steps down for Reinventing the Steel.
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#27
1:4 tone below 440 Hz is 427.5 Hz.

I think Dimebag actually tuned down 60 cents, or 425 Hz.
#28
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Not true, One is 1/4 step down.

Unless you just mean the song, which is actually in standard, as is To Live Is To Die.
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#30
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y do they do that?


No clue! Why do people tune to 440, for that matter? It's just a random number.
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No clue! Why do people tune to 440, for that matter? It's just a random number.


Honestly i have no clue i just know Zakk Wylde said the only time he tunes to 440 is when he plays along with a piano....so maybe thats the frequency pianos are tuned to....
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#33
It's the frequency that piano's are tuned to. Like it was said earlier, sometimes, it makes it easier for the vocalist. They could do it just 2 mess with you while you're trying to play it since it won't sound quite right if you played it in standard tuning.
#34
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Honestly i have no clue i just know Zakk Wylde said the only time he tunes to 440 is when he plays along with a piano....so maybe thats the frequency pianos are tuned to....


Sometimes people say "440" to refer to standard guitar tuning, though I'd say most alternate tunings are still referenced from A 440 just the same. If you tune down a whole step with your tuner set to A 440, you're still in A 440.
#35
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It's the frequency that piano's are tuned to. Like it was said earlier, sometimes, it makes it easier for the vocalist. They could do it just 2 mess with you while you're trying to play it since it won't sound quite right if you played it in standard tuning.


Most pianos...nowadays.
#36
I always thought that these 1/4 step up/down tunings were due to the recording...

eyeEDIT: i.e. the guitars were in standard when they recorded, but sound 1/4 up or down in the playback.
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#37
Metallica used to tune 1/2 step down and then speed up the master reel to a standard tuning. James has never been able to sing that high, the kick drums are high and tight, the cymbals are high as well and have a short ring time. Pro tools has obviously erased any need for those tricks in recent years. Lots of bands played with that. Zep did it a lot. Listen to the vocal line in No Quarter for example. Cheers
#38
"Layla" was recorded in A440 but was change with recording speed. I guess as they just though it sounded better
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#39
The two first Megadeth albums are tuned down 1/4 step.
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#40
The easiest thing for you to do is just to play the song on your stereo and tune your guitar to that.
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